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From: Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
To: Kevin Grittner <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Cc: Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Cc: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Cc: Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Cc: Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Cc: MARK CALLAGHAN <mdcallag@gmail.com>
Cc: Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Cc: pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Efficient transaction-controlled synchronous replication.
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:30:04 +0000
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On Fri, 2011-03-18 at 16:24 -0500, Kevin Grittner wrote:
> Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote:
>  
> > Since the current solution is intended to support data-loss-free
> > failover, but NOT to guarantee a consistent view of the world from
> > a SQL level, I doubt it's worth paying any price for this.
>  
> Well, that brings us back to the question of why we would want to
> suppress the view of the data on the master until the replica
> acknowledges the commit.  It *is* committed on the master, we're
> just holding off on telling the committer about it until we can
> honor the guarantee of replication.  If it can be seen on the
> replica before the committer get such acknowledgment, why not on the
> master?

I think the issue is explicit acknowledgement, not visibility.

-- 
 Simon Riggs           http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/books/
 PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training and Services
 




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