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From: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
To: Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Cc: Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Cc: pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: A test for replay of regression tests
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2021 13:13:15 -0400
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Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> writes:
> On 2021-04-23 11:53:35 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
>> Yeah.  I found out earlier that wal_consistency_checking=all is an
>> absolute PIG.  Running the regression tests that way requires tens of
>> gigabytes of disk space, and a significant amount of time if your
>> disk is not very speedy.  If we put this into the buildfarm at all,
>> it would have to be opt-in, not run-by-default, because a lot of BF
>> animals simply don't have the horsepower.  I think I'd vote against
>> adding it to check-world, too; the cost/benefit ratio is not good
>> unless you are specifically working on replay functions.

> I think it'd be a huge improvement to test recovery during check-world
> by default - it's a huge swath of crucial code that practically has no
> test coverage.  I agree that testing by default with
> wal_consistency_checking=all isn't feasible due to the time & space
> overhead, so I think we should not do that.

I was mainly objecting to enabling wal_consistency_checking by default.
I agree it's bad that we have so little routine test coverage on WAL
replay code.

>> The two things I'd say about this are (1) Whether to use
>> wal_consistency_checking, and with what value, needs to be
>> easily adjustable. (2) People will want to run other test suites
>> than the core regression tests, eg contrib modules.

> I don't think there's actually that much need to test contrib modules
> through recovery - most of them don't seem like they'd add meaningful
> coverage? The exception is contrib/bloom, but perhaps that'd be better
> tackled with a dedicated test?

contrib/bloom is indeed the only(?) case within contrib, but in my mind
that's a proxy for what people will be needing to test out-of-core AMs.
It might not be a test to run by default, but there needs to be a way
to do it.

Also, I suspect that there are bits of GIST/GIN/SPGIST that are not
well exercised if you don't run the contrib modules that add opclasses
for those.

			regards, tom lane





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