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From: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: Replication vs. float timestamps is a disaster
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 10:49:29 -0500
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Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes:
> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 3:31 AM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
>> Thoughts?  Should we double down on trying to make this work according
>> to the "all integer timestamps" protocol specs, or cut our losses and
>> change the specs?

> I vote for doubling down.  It's bad enough that we have so many
> internal details that depend on this setting; letting that cascade
> into the wire protocol seems like it's just letting the chaos spread
> farther and wider.

How do you figure that it's not embedded in the wire protocol already?
Not only the replicated data for a timestamp column, but also the
client-visible binary I/O format, depend on this.  I think having some
parts of the protocol use a different timestamp format than other parts
is simply weird, and as this exercise has shown, it's bug-prone as all
get out.

> Also, I wonder if we could consider deprecating and removing
> --disable-integer-datetimes at some point.

Seems like a different conversation.  Although given the lack of
replication bug reports so far, maybe nobody is using
--disable-integer-datetimes anymore.

Certainly, fixing these bugs by removing the --disable-integer-datetimes
option would be a lot less painful than trying to make it actually work
per protocol spec.

			regards, tom lane


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