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From: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
To: Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: Need Multixact Freezing Docs
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:32:33 -0300
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Josh Berkus wrote:
> On 04/15/2014 02:25 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
> > Hackers,
> > 
> > We need documentation on how users should intelligently set the
> > multixact freeze settings.  I'm happy to write the actual text, but I
> > definitely don't have any idea how to set these myself.  Under what
> > circumstances should they be different from freeze_max_age?  How?

Measure consumption rate of multixacts, compare to consumption rate of
xids, and set the freeze ages so that they are reached more-or-less at
the same time, so that freezing for any of them would also freeze the
other one.  You need to set both table_freeze_ages to values that would
be reached later than both min_freeze_ages would be reached, if you get
what I mean.  The idea is that full scan of a table would fix both
things at once, saving a followup full scan shortly after the first one.  

You can see the current multixact value in pg_controldata output.  Keep
timestamped values of that somewhere (a table?) so that you can measure
consumption rate.  I don't think we provide SQL-level access to those
values.

> Also: how do I check the multixact age of a table?  There doesn't seem
> to be any data for this ...

pg_class.relminmxid is the oldest multixact value that might be present
in a table.

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Álvaro Herrera                http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services


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