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From: Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
To: Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Cc: Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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Cc: Teodor Sigaev <teodor@postgrespro.ru>
Subject: Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 12:04:19 -0400
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* Joshua D. Drake (jd@commandprompt.com) wrote:
> +1 for Robert here, removing async commit is a non-starter. It is
> PostgreSQL performance 101 that you disable synchronous commit
> unless you have a specific data/business requirement that needs it.
> Specifically because of how much faster Pg is with async commit.

I agree that we don't want to get rid of async commit, but, for the
archive, I wouldn't recommend using it unless you specifically understand
and accept that trade-off, so I wouldn't lump it into a "PostgreSQL
performance 101" group- that's increasing work_mem, shared_buffers, WAL
size, etc.  Accepting that you're going to lose *committed* transactions
on a crash requires careful thought and consideration of what you're
going to do when that happens, not the other way around.

Thanks!

Stephen

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