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From: David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
To: Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Cc: Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: pg_authid.rolpassword format (was Re: Password identifiers, protocol aging and SCRAM protocol)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 15:29:12 -0800
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On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 06:14:40PM -0500, Stephen Frost wrote:
> David,
> 
> * David Fetter (david@fetter.org) wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 08:34:19AM -0500, Stephen Frost wrote:
> > > * Heikki Linnakangas (hlinnaka@iki.fi) wrote:
> > > > Even if you have a separate "verifier type" column, it's not fully
> > > > normalized, because there's still a dependency between the
> > > > verifier and verifier type columns. You will always need to look
> > > > at the verifier type to make sense of the verifier itself.
> > > 
> > > That's true- but you don't need to look at the verifier, or even
> > > have *access* to the verifier, to look at the verifier type.
> > 
> > Would a view that shows only what's to the left of the first semicolon
> > suit this purpose?
> 
> Obviously a (security barrier...) view or a (security definer) function
> could be used, but I don't believe either is actually a good idea.

Would you be so kind as to help me understand what's wrong with that idea?

Best,
David.
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