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From: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
To: Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Cc: Vladimir Borodin <root@simply.name>
Cc: Dmitriy Sarafannikov <dsarafannikov@yandex.ru>
Cc: pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: Broken hint bits (freeze)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 11:14:09 -0400
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On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 07:45:17PM +0530, Amit Kapila wrote:
> > Now, it seems we later added a doc section early on that talks about
> > "Verify standby servers" so I have moved the wal_level section into that
> > block, which should be safe.  There is now no need to start/stop the new
> > server since pg_upgrade will do that safely already.
> >
> 
> !     <para>
> !      Also, if upgrading standby servers, change <varname>wal_level</>
> !      to <literal>replica</> in the <filename>postgresql.conf</> file on
> !      the new cluster.
> 
> I think it is better to indicate that this is required for the master
> cluster (probably it is clear for users) /"on the new cluster."/"on
> the new master cluster.". Do we need something different for v10 where
> default wal_level is 'replica'

You know, I thought about that and was afraid saying "new master
cluster" would be confusing because it isn't a master _yet_, but if you
feel it will help, and I considered it, let's add it.  The problem is
that in the old instructions, at the point we were mentioning this, it
was the new master, which is why I evaluated removing it in the first
place. (Yeah, I am amazed I considered all these cases.)

Updated patch attached.  Thanks.

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  [text/x-diff] hintbits.diff (2.4K, ../20170614151409.GD4750@momjian.us/2-hintbits.diff)
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diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pgupgrade.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pgupgrade.sgml
new file mode 100644
index bf58a0a..05fa053
*** a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pgupgrade.sgml
--- b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pgupgrade.sgml
*************** NET STOP postgresql-9.0
*** 317,331 ****
     </step>
  
     <step>
!     <title>Verify standby servers</title>
  
      <para>
!      If you are upgrading Streaming Replication and Log-Shipping standby
!      servers, verify that the old standby servers are caught up by running
!      <application>pg_controldata</> against the old primary and standby
!      clusters.  Verify that the <quote>Latest checkpoint location</>
!      values match in all clusters.  (There will be a mismatch if old
!      standby servers were shut down before the old primary.)
      </para>
     </step>
  
--- 317,338 ----
     </step>
  
     <step>
!     <title>Prepare for standby server upgrades</title>
  
      <para>
!      If you are upgrading standby servers (as outlined in section <xref
!      linkend="pgupgrade-step-replicas">), verify that the old standby
!      servers are caught up by running <application>pg_controldata</>
!      against the old primary and standby clusters.  Verify that the
!      <quote>Latest checkpoint location</> values match in all clusters.
!      (There will be a mismatch if old standby servers were shut down
!      before the old primary.)
!     </para>
! 
!     <para>
!      Also, if upgrading standby servers, change <varname>wal_level</>
!      to <literal>replica</> in the <filename>postgresql.conf</> file on
!      the new master cluster.
      </para>
     </step>
  
*************** pg_upgrade.exe
*** 410,416 ****
      </para>
     </step>
  
!    <step>
      <title>Upgrade Streaming Replication and Log-Shipping standby servers</title>
  
      <para>
--- 417,423 ----
      </para>
     </step>
  
!    <step id="pgupgrade-step-replicas">
      <title>Upgrade Streaming Replication and Log-Shipping standby servers</title>
  
      <para>
*************** pg_upgrade.exe
*** 471,486 ****
        </para>
       </step>
  
-      <step>
-       <title>Start and stop the new master cluster</title>
- 
-       <para>
-        In the new master cluster, change <varname>wal_level</> to
-        <literal>replica</> in the <filename>postgresql.conf</> file
-        and then start and stop the cluster.
-       </para>
-      </step>
- 
       <step>
        <title>Run <application>rsync</></title>
  
--- 478,483 ----

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