From: Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
To: Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Cc: Dean Rasheed <dean.a.rasheed@gmail.com>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Cc: PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: Multivariate MCV stats can leak data to unprivileged users
Date: Sat, 18 May 2019 21:00:42 +0200
Message-ID: <20190518190042.2y33h4toxk4fxv5t@development> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E0E0C14-C476-446A-835F-CC3558709DA9@anarazel.de>
References: <CAEZATCUhT9rt7Ui=Vdx4N==VV5XOK5dsXfnGgVOz_JhAicB=ZA@mail.gmail.com>
<20190513223605.lwj65akict3tpetv@development>
<CAEZATCWFCN2yBpqpw4kw6xhwdPNz8DERPOWNHHQ_qHV4=tbJ8A@mail.gmail.com>
<20190517202938.lkx6q2u6woiptrsa@alap3.anarazel.de>
<CAEZATCX9yU2eKL7-dCWTv1pMMi1hb+PsZyM6gjBxupDnMuEzRw@mail.gmail.com>
<CAEZATCV5fo2E6K5EVN2uytGjMvhTKTizP_rOW67nPqNK8jHAAg@mail.gmail.com>
<21269.1558192388@sss.pgh.pa.us>
<CAEZATCW3iAJnU8opUCXb2i_-8syU7on4cdXLWHBeWr04v67HoQ@mail.gmail.com>
<4E0E0C14-C476-446A-835F-CC3558709DA9@anarazel.de>
On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 11:49:06AM -0700, Andres Freund wrote:
>Hi,
>
>On May 18, 2019 8:43:29 AM PDT, Dean Rasheed <dean.a.rasheed@gmail.com> wrote:
>>On Sat, 18 May 2019 at 16:13, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dean Rasheed <dean.a.rasheed@gmail.com> writes:
>>> > On the other hand, pg_dump relies on pg_statistic_ext to work out
>>> > which extended statistics objects to dump. If we were to change
>>that
>>> > to use pg_stats_ext, then a user dumping a table with RLS using the
>>> > --enable-row-security flag wouldn't get any extended statistics
>>> > objects, which would be a somewhat surprising result.
>>>
>>> It seems like what we need here is to have a separation between the
>>> *definition* of a stats object (which is what pg_dump needs access
>>> to) and the current actual *data* in it. I'd have expected that
>>> keeping those in separate catalogs would be the thing to do, though
>>> perhaps it's too late for that.
>>>
>>
>>Yeah, with the benefit of hindsight, that would have made sense, but
>>that seems like a pretty big change to be attempting at this stage.
>
>Otoh, having a suboptimal catalog representation that we'll likely have
>to change in one of the next releases also isn't great. Seems likely
>that we'll need post beta1 catversion bumps anyway?
>
But that's not an issue intruduced by PG12, it works like that even for
the extended statistics introduced in PG10.
regards
--
Tomas Vondra http://www.2ndQuadrant.com
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Reply to all the recipients using the --to and --cc options:
reply via email
To: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
Cc: tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com, andres@anarazel.de, dean.a.rasheed@gmail.com, tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us
Subject: Re: Multivariate MCV stats can leak data to unprivileged users
In-Reply-To: <20190518190042.2y33h4toxk4fxv5t@development>
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
This inbox is served by DDX for PostgreSQL; see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox