From: Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Cc: Tom Kincaid <tomjohnkincaid@gmail.com>
Cc: Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Cc: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Cc: Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Cc: Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Cc: Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Cc: PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Cc: Masahiko Sawada <masahiko.sawada@2ndquadrant.com>
Subject: Re: Key management with tests
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2021 18:34:53 -0500
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Greetings,
* Bruce Momjian (bruce@momjian.us) wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 08:23:11AM -0500, Tom Kincaid wrote:
> > I propose that we meet to discuss what approach we want to use to move TDE
> > forward. We then start a new thread with a proposal on the approach
> > and finalize it via community consensus. I will invite Bruce, Stephen and
> > Masahiko to this meeting. If anybody else would like to participate in this
> > discussion and subsequently in the effort to get TDE in PG1x, please let me
> > know. Assuming Bruce, Stephen and Masahiko are down for this, I (or a volunteer
> > from this meeting) will post the proposal for how we move this patch forward in
> > another thread. Hopefully, we can get consensus on that and subsequently
> > restart the execution of delivering this feature.
>
> We got complaints that decisions were not publicly discussed, or were
> too long, so I am not sure this helps.
If the notes are published afterwords as an explanation of why certain
choices were made, I suspect it'd be reasonably well received. The
concern about back-room discussions is more that decisions are made
without explanation as to why, provided we avoid that, I believe they
can be helpful.
So, +1 for my part to have the conversation.
Thanks,
Stephen
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