From: Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Cc: pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org
Subject: Re: Assorted improvements in pg_dump
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 09:28:52 -0500
Message-ID: <20211021142852.GD741@telsasoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1462940.1634496313@sss.pgh.pa.us>
On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 05:14:45PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Lastly, patch 0003 addresses the concern I raised at [3] that it's
> unsafe to call pg_get_partkeydef() and pg_get_expr(relpartbound)
> in getTables(). Looking closer I realized that we can't cast
> pg_class.reloftype to regtype at that point either, since regtypeout
> is going to notice if the type has been concurrently dropped.
>
> In [3] I'd imagined that we could just delay those calls to a second
> query in getTables(), but that doesn't work at all: if we apply
> these functions to every row of pg_class, we still risk failure
> against any relation that we didn't lock. So there seems little
> alternative but to push these functions out to secondary queries
> executed later.
>
> Arguably, 0003 is a bug fix that we should consider back-patching.
> However, I've not heard field reports of the problems it fixes,
> so maybe there's no need to bother.
> [3] https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/1462940.1634496313%40sss.pgh.pa.us
FYI, I see this issue happen in production environment.
Grepping logfiles on ~40 servers, I see it happened at least 3 times since
October 1.
Our backup script is probably particularly sensitive to this: it separately
dumps each "old" partition once and for all. We're more likely to hit this
since pg_dump is called in a loop.
I never reported it, since I think it's a documented issue, and it's no great
problem, so long as it runs the next day. But it'd be a pain to find that the
backup was incomplete when we needed it. Also, I use the backups to migrate to
new servers, and it would be a pain to start the job at a calculated time
expecting it to finish at the beginning of a coordinated maintenance window,
but then discover that it had failed and needs to be rerun with fingers
crossed.
On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 02:45:13PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> While poking at pg_dump for some work I'll show later, I grew quite
> unhappy with the extent to which people have ignored this advice
> given near the head of getTables():
>
> * Note: in this phase we should collect only a minimal amount of
> * information about each table, basically just enough to decide if it is
> * interesting. We must fetch all tables in this phase because otherwise
> * we cannot correctly identify inherited columns, owned sequences, etc.
>
> Far from collecting "a minimal amount of information", we have
> repeatedly stuffed extra joins and expensive sub-selects into this
> query. That's fairly inefficient if we aren't interested in dumping
> every table, but it's much worse than that: we are collecting all this
> info *before we have lock* on the tables. That means we are at
> serious risk of data skew in any place where we consult server-side
> functions, eg pg_get_partkeydef(). For example:
>
> regression=# create table foo(f1 int) partition by range(f1);
> CREATE TABLE
> regression=# begin; drop table foo;
> BEGIN
> DROP TABLE
>
> Now start a pg_dump in another shell session, wait a second or two,
> and
>
> regression=*# commit;
> COMMIT
>
> and the pg_dump blows up:
>
> $ pg_dump -s regression
> pg_dump: error: query failed: ERROR: could not open relation with OID 37796
...
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