From: Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
To: Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
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Subject: Re: Catversion bumps during beta (was Re: [Proposal] Expose internal MultiXact member count function for efficient monitoring)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2026 10:35:06 -0700
Message-ID: <20260922173506.dd.noahmisch@microsoft.com> (raw)
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On Tue, Sep 22, 2026 at 07:01:14PM +0300, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
> I don't really mind catversion bumps during the beta period in general, I'm
> in the camp that if there's a change that would make the release better and
> it's not particularly risky, it's better to still sneak it in.
>
> I feel I might be in the minority with that view though. Historically, we've
> avoided fixes that need catversion bumps late in the beta period, so that
> beta-testers don't need to pg_upgrade. I think that's a poor tradeoff, but
> if we're changing long-standing policy, the RMT probably isn't the right
> group for that. So, how do others feel?
I personally make no attempt to avoid late catversion bumps.
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