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From: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
To: Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Cc: Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Cc: Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Cc: Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Cc: Erik Rijkers <er@xs4all.nl>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Cc: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Cc: Mark Dilger <mark.dilger@enterprisedb.com>
Cc: PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: Postgres perl module namespace
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 13:43:52 -0400
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Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net> writes:
> On 2022-04-18 Mo 11:52, Noah Misch wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 07:15:30AM -0700, Andres Freund wrote:
>>> I just, again, tried to backport a test as part of a bugfix. The
>>> renaming between 14 and 15 makes that task almost comically harder. The
>>> only way I see of dealing with that for the next 5 years is to just
>>> never backpatch tests to < 15. Which seems like a bad outcome.

> I'm not sure how often we do things like that. But I don't agree it's
> impossibly hard, although I can see it might be a bit annoying.

I think we back-patch test cases *all the time*.  So I think Andres
is quite right to be concerned about making that harder, although I'm
not sure that his estimate of the conversion difficulty is accurate.
I plan to keep a copy of Noah's script and see if applying that to
the patch files alleviates the pain.  In a few months we should have
a better idea of whether that's sufficient, or we want to go to the
work of back-patching the renaming.

I doubt that just plopping the new Cluster.pm in alongside the old
file could work --- wouldn't the two modules need to share state
somehow?

Another thing that ought to be on the table is back-patching
549ec201d (Replace Test::More plans with done_testing).  Those
test counts are an even huger pain for back-patching than the
renaming, because the count is often different in each branch.

			regards, tom lane





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