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From: Tom Lane <[email protected]>
To: Florents Tselai <[email protected]>
Cc: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
Cc: Robert Haas <[email protected]>
Cc: Alexander Korotkov <[email protected]>
Cc: pgsql-hackers <[email protected]>
Cc: Andrew Dunstan <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: PATCH: jsonpath string methods: lower, upper, initcap, l/r/btrim, replace, split_part
Date: Fri, 23 May 2025 13:52:01 -0400
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Florents Tselai <[email protected]> writes:
> On 22 May 2025, at 11:56 PM, Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I don't understand how this discussion got to the conclusion that functions that depend on the locale cannot be immutable.  Note that the top-level functions lower, upper, and initcap themselves are immutable.

> I assume you mean that they’re set at initdb time, so there’s no mutability concern? 

Yeah, I think Peter's right and I'm wrong.  Obviously this ties into
our philosophical debate about how immutable is immutable.  But as
long as the functions only depend on locale settings that are fixed
at database creation, I think it's okay to consider them immutable.

If you were, say, depending on LC_NUMERIC, it would clearly be unsafe
to consider that immutable, so I'm not quite sure if this is the end
of the discussion.  But for what's mentioned in the thread title,
I think we only care about LC_CTYPE.

			regards, tom lane





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