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From: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
To: Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Cc: Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Cc: Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Cc: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Cc: David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Cc: Dmitry Dolgov <9erthalion6@gmail.com>
Cc: Jakub Wartak <Jakub.Wartak@tomtom.com>
Cc: Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@enterprisedb.com>
Cc: pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: WIP: WAL prefetch (another approach)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 19:24:53 -0400
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Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com> writes:
> FWIW I also chewed through many megawatts trying to reproduce this on
> a PowerPC system in 64 bit big endian mode, with an emulator.  No
> cigar.  However, it's so slow that I didn't make it to 10 runs...

Speaking of megawatts ... my G4 has now finished about ten cycles of
installcheck-parallel without a failure, which isn't really enough
to draw any conclusions yet.  But I happened to notice the
accumulated CPU time for the background processes:

USER       PID  %CPU %MEM      VSZ    RSS   TT  STAT STARTED      TIME COMMAND
tgl      19048   0.0  4.4   229952  92196   ??  Ss    3:19PM  19:59.19 postgres: startup recovering 000000010000001400000022    
tgl      19051   0.0  0.1   229656   1696   ??  Ss    3:19PM  27:09.14 postgres: walreceiver streaming 14/227D8F14    
tgl      19052   0.0  0.1   229904   2516   ??  Ss    3:19PM  17:38.17 postgres: walsender tgl [local] streaming 14/227D8F14 

IOW, we've spent over twice as many CPU cycles shipping data to the
standby as we did in applying the WAL on the standby.  Is this
expected?  I've got wal_consistency_checking = all, which is bloating
the WAL volume quite a bit, but still it seems like the walsender and
walreceiver have little excuse for spending more cycles per byte
than the startup process.

(This is testing b3ee4c503, so if Thomas' WAL changes improved
efficiency of the replay process at all, the discrepancy could be
even worse in HEAD.)

			regards, tom lane





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