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From: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
To: Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org>
Cc: Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Cc: Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Cc: Amit Langote <amitlangote09@gmail.com>
Cc: David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com>
Cc: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Cc: Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Cc: John Naylor <john.naylor@enterprisedb.com>
Cc: Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Cc: PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Cc: Nikita Glukhov <n.gluhov@postgrespro.ru>
Subject: Re: PG 15 (and to a smaller degree 14) regression due to ExprEvalStep size
Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2022 15:17:44 -0400
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"Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz@postgresql.org> writes:
> Speaking personally, I would like to see what we could do to include 
> support for this batch of the SQL/JSON features in v15. What is included 
> looks like it closes most of the gap on what we've been missing 
> syntactically since the standard was adopted, and the JSON_TABLE work is 
> very convenient for converting JSON data into a relational format. I 
> believe having this feature set is important for maintaining standards 
> compliance, interoperability, tooling support, and general usability. 
> Plus, JSON still seems to be pretty popular :)
> ...
> I hope that these can be addressed satisfactorily in a reasonable (read: 
> now a much shorter) timeframe so we can include the SQL/JSON work in v15.

We have delayed releases for $COOL_FEATURE in the past, and I think
our batting average on that is still .000: not once has it worked out
well.  I think we're better off getting the pain over with quickly,
so I regretfully vote for revert.  And for a full redesign/rewrite
before we try again; based on Andres' comments, it needs that.

			regards, tom lane





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