From: Richard Huxton <dev@archonet.com>
To: Mark Woodward <pgsql@mohawksoft.com>
Cc: Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog@svana.org>
Cc: Jim C. Nasby <jnasby@pervasive.com>
Cc: Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: Want to add to contrib.... xmldbx
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:40:40 +0000
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Mark Woodward wrote:
>
>> I don't understand what you mean by PostgreSQL trying to be neutral.
>> Postgres focuses on what it's good at, being a database. It's not
>> really for or against anything. The PostgreSQL team is not interested
>> in maintaining code that so clearly falls outside of the scope.
>
> That is more or less what I'm writing about. I wish people wouldn't take
> it as an insult or slam, because it isn't. (I keep saying, I think
> PostgreSQL is amazing, and I've been using it for about a decade.) The
> source code to PostgreSQL implements a SQL database, the PostgreSQL
> Project defines a community creating and using this database.
>
> Is the scope "the source code" or is the scope "The Postgresql Project?" I
> think it can be said that getting more people using PostgreSQL is within
> the scope of "The PostgreSQL Project." As the open source model promises,
> we trust that the more people who use PostgreSQL the better off "The
> PostgreSQL Project" will be. The better "The PostgreSQL Project" is,
> theoretically, the more numerous the resources for the project will
> become, makeing the community better able to improve the source code.
>
> The community is an important part of "scope."
There clearly is a difference, but you started this Mark by asking to
bundle your xmldbx with the core distribution (into "contrib") - thus
implying "source code".
Now - there might well be a good argument for an xmldbx package that
users can one-click install. Since I've got dozens of xxx-pgsql packages
available this way on my Ubuntu desktop, I'm guessing you're thinking
more of Windows.
So, if we reword your question: "Is there, or should there be a simple
way to download and install packages/plugins for PostgreSQL via the
installer?" Now you've got "No" and "Yes" as your answers, but that's
got nowt to do with "contrib/".
Of course, there's still the small issue of implementation...
--
Richard Huxton
Archonet Ltd
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