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From: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
To: Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: when the startup process doesn't
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 20:44:31 -0400
Message-ID: <465221.1618879471@sss.pgh.pa.us> (raw)
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Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com> writes:
> On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 5:55 AM Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote:
>> If I had to pick one of these two ideas, I'd pick the one the
>> log-based solution, since it seems easier to access and simplifies
>> retrospective analysis, but I suspect SQL access would be quite useful
>> for some users too, especially in cloud environments where "just log
>> into the machine and have a look" is not an option.

> +1 for both ideas.  I've heard multiple requests for something like
> that.  A couple of users with update_process_title=off told me they
> regretted that choice when they found themselves running a long crash
> recovery with the only indicator of progress disabled.

Hmm ... +1 for progress messages in the log, but I'm suspicious about
the complexity-and-fragility-versus-value tradeoff for the other thing.

			regards, tom lane





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