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From: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
To: Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Cc: Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Cc: David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Cc: Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Cc: Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu>
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Subject: Re: WIP: SCRAM authentication
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 20:45:23 -0500
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Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> writes:
> Why do we need pg_shadow or pg_user or related views at all..?

A lot of code looks at those just to get usernames.  I am not in favor of
breaking such stuff without need.

How about we just say that the password in these old views always reads
out as '********' even when there is a password, and we invent new views
that carry real auth information?  (Hopefully in an extensible way.)

			regards, tom lane


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