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From: Jesper Pedersen <jesper.pedersen@redhat.com>
To: Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
To: Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Cc: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Cc: PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: pg_receivewal documentation
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 13:03:12 -0400
Message-ID: <65c3ecdf-8995-34cb-83c4-50068877e632@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ebed4b9043b222d486ea3f0e44e7dcd242a80781.camel@cybertec.at>
References: <20190710142421.GA28387@alvherre.pgsql>
	<54779de5-f922-c0cf-629d-b582eded7265@redhat.com>
	<20190716050555.GA1439@paquier.xyz>
	<ebed4b9043b222d486ea3f0e44e7dcd242a80781.camel@cybertec.at>

Hi,

On 7/16/19 12:28 PM, Laurenz Albe wrote:
>> This is not true in all cases as since 9.6 it is possible to specify
>> multiple synchronous standbys.  So if for example pg_receivewal and
>> another synchronous standby are set in s_s_names and that the number
>> of a FIRST (priority-based) or ANY (quorum set) is two, then the same
>> issue exists, but this documentation is incorrect.  I think that we
>> should have a more extensive wording  here, like "if pg_receivewal is
>> part of a quorum-based or priority-based set of synchronous standbys."
> 
> I think this would be overly complicated.
> The wording above seems to cover the priority-based base sufficiently
> in my opinion.
> Maybe a second sentence with more detail would be better:
> 
>    ... must not be set to <literal>remote_apply</literal> if
>    <application>pg_receivewal</application> is the only synchronous standby.
>    Similarly, if <application>pg_receivewal</application> is part of
>    a quorum-based set of synchronous standbys, it won't count towards
>    the quorum if <xref linkend="guc-synchronous-commit"/> is set to
>    <literal>remote_apply</literal>.
> 

Here is the patch for that.

Best regards,
  Jesper

Attachments:

v5_pgreceivewal-doc.patch (text/x-patch, 1.6K) download From 4fb28d6fe08ddea5a9740c9a81e8e00b94283d78 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: jesperpedersen <jesper.pedersen@redhat.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 13:14:25 -0400 Subject: [PATCH] Highlight that pg_receivewal doesn't apply WAL, and as such synchronous-commit needs to be remote_write or lower. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Authors: Álvaro Herrera, Laurenz Albe and Jesper Pedersen Review-by: Álvaro Herrera, Laurenz Albe and Jesper Pedersen --- doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_receivewal.sgml | 12 ++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 12 insertions(+) diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_receivewal.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_receivewal.sgml index 0506120c00..03b20ecd38 100644 --- a/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_receivewal.sgml +++ b/doc/src/sgml/ref/pg_receivewal.sgml @@ -207,6 +207,18 @@ PostgreSQL documentation server as a synchronous standby, to ensure that timely feedback is sent to the server. </para> + + <para> + Note that while WAL will be flushed with this setting, + <application>pg_receivewal</application> never applies it, so + <xref linkend="guc-synchronous-commit"/> must not be set to + <literal>remote_apply</literal> if <application>pg_receivewal</application> + is the only synchronous standby. Similarly, if + <application>pg_receivewal</application> is part of a quorum-based + set of synchronous standbys, it won't count towards the quorum if + <xref linkend="guc-synchronous-commit"/> is set to + <literal>remote_apply</literal>. + </para> </listitem> </varlistentry> -- 2.21.0

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