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From: Sergey Burladyan <eshkinkot@gmail.com>
To: Vladimir Borodin <root@simply.name>
Cc: pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Cc: Dmitriy Sarafannikov <dsarafannikov@yandex.ru>
Cc: Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Subject: Re: Broken hint bits (freeze)
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2017 14:29:55 +0300
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Vladimir Borodin <root@simply.name> writes:

> > 6 июня 2017 г., в 23:30, Sergey Burladyan <eshkinkot@gmail.com> написал(а):
> > 
> > Dmitriy Sarafannikov <dsarafannikov@yandex.ru> writes:
> > 
> >> Starting and stopping master after running pg_upgrade but before rsync to collect statistics
> >> was a bad idea.
> > 
> > But, starting and stopping master after running pg_upgrade is *required*
> > by documentation:
> > https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.6/static/pgupgrade.html
> >> f. Start and stop the new master cluster
> >> In the new master cluster, change wal_level to replica in the postgresql.conf file and then start and stop the cluster.
> > 
> > and there is no any suggestion to disable autovacuum for it.

> Yep. This should probably be fixed in the documentation?

I think so. There is some problem in pg_upgrade documentation, nothing about:
1. preventing heap change by vacuum, analyze, something also when master
   restarted after pg_upgrade but before rsync
2. log-shipping only standby cannot shutdown at the same checkpoint with
   master

I try to start discuss about this: https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/87y3ta49zp.fsf%40seb.koffice.internal
but without luck :-) 

PS: I CC'd Bruce here.

-- 
Sergey Burladyan


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