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* Feature Freeze
@ 2006-08-01 11:04 Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
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From: Bruce Momjian @ 2006-08-01 11:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-hackers
Now that it is August 1, we are in feature freeze. During the next
month, all outstanding patches will be reviewed and hopefully applied.
After that, we will start preparing for beta, hopefully to start in
September or October.
--
Bruce Momjian [email protected]
EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com
+ If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +
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* Feature freeze
@ 2007-10-20 23:06 Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
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From: Bruce Momjian @ 2007-10-20 23:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-hackers
Many community members were disappointed that feature freeze took so
long, but based on the number of features added to 8.3 our feature
freeze duration was similar to previous releases.
I think our only big mistake was setting expectation that this would be
a short feature freeze. We can be proud of the 8.3 release.
--
Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> http://momjian.us
EnterpriseDB http://postgres.enterprisedb.com
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* [PATCH 1/2] Fixes to index_get_partition()
@ 2020-11-05 18:06 Justin Pryzby <[email protected]>
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From: Justin Pryzby @ 2020-11-05 18:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
which was added at: a6da0047158b8a227f883aeed19eb7fcfbef11fb
free list in cases where there's no parent
use lsyscache: get_rel_relispartition()
---
src/backend/catalog/partition.c | 3 ++-
1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/src/backend/catalog/partition.c b/src/backend/catalog/partition.c
index 239ac017fa..4dfac39adf 100644
--- a/src/backend/catalog/partition.c
+++ b/src/backend/catalog/partition.c
@@ -170,13 +170,14 @@ index_get_partition(Relation partition, Oid indexId)
ReleaseSysCache(tup);
if (!ispartition)
continue;
- if (get_partition_parent(lfirst_oid(l)) == indexId)
+ if (get_partition_parent(partIdx) == indexId)
{
list_free(idxlist);
return partIdx;
}
}
+ list_free(idxlist);
return InvalidOid;
}
--
2.17.0
--6K2R/cS9K4qvcBNq
Content-Type: text/x-diff; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: attachment;
filename="0002-index_get_partition-use-lsyscache.patch"
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* Feature freeze
@ 2025-04-08 14:36 Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2025-04-08 14:59 ` Re: Feature freeze Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
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From: Bruce Momjian @ 2025-04-08 14:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: PostgreSQL-development <[email protected]>
Since we recorded feature freeze as April 8, 2025 0:00 AoE (anywhere on
Earth):
https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/PostgreSQL_18_Open_Items#Important_Dates
https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/aoe
and it is now 2:34 AM AoE, I guess we are now in feature freeze.
--
Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> https://momjian.us
EDB https://enterprisedb.com
Do not let urgent matters crowd out time for investment in the future.
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* Re: Feature freeze
2025-04-08 14:36 Feature freeze Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
@ 2025-04-08 14:59 ` Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2025-04-08 15:13 ` Re: Feature freeze Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>
2025-04-08 16:11 ` Re: Feature freeze Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2025-04-08 16:24 ` Re: Feature freeze Nathan Bossart <[email protected]>
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From: Bruce Momjian @ 2025-04-08 14:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: PostgreSQL-development <[email protected]>
On Tue, Apr 8, 2025 at 10:36:45AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Since we recorded feature freeze as April 8, 2025 0:00 AoE (anywhere on
> Earth):
>
> https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/PostgreSQL_18_Open_Items#Important_Dates
> https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/aoe
>
> and it is now 2:34 AM AoE, I guess we are now in feature freeze.
Frankly, I think the name "anywhere on Earth" is confusing, since it
really is "everywhere on Earth":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anywhere_on_Earth
Anywhere on Earth (AoE) is a calendar designation that indicates
that a period expires when the date passes everywhere on Earth.
--
Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> https://momjian.us
EDB https://enterprisedb.com
Do not let urgent matters crowd out time for investment in the future.
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* Re: Feature freeze
2025-04-08 14:36 Feature freeze Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2025-04-08 14:59 ` Re: Feature freeze Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
@ 2025-04-08 15:13 ` Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>
2025-04-08 15:20 ` Re: Feature freeze Nathan Bossart <[email protected]>
2025-04-09 06:56 ` Re: Feature freeze John Naylor <[email protected]>
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From: Daniel Gustafsson @ 2025-04-08 15:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; +Cc: PostgreSQL-development <[email protected]>
> On 8 Apr 2025, at 16:59, Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2025 at 10:36:45AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>> Since we recorded feature freeze as April 8, 2025 0:00 AoE (anywhere on
>> Earth):
>>
>> https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/PostgreSQL_18_Open_Items#Important_Dates
>> https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/aoe
>>
>> and it is now 2:34 AM AoE, I guess we are now in feature freeze.
>
> Frankly, I think the name "anywhere on Earth" is confusing, since it
> really is "everywhere on Earth":
I find both of the above needlessly confusing when we instead could use UTC
which is a more universally understood concept.
--
Daniel Gustafsson
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* Re: Feature freeze
2025-04-08 14:36 Feature freeze Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2025-04-08 14:59 ` Re: Feature freeze Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2025-04-08 15:13 ` Re: Feature freeze Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>
@ 2025-04-08 15:20 ` Nathan Bossart <[email protected]>
2025-04-08 15:53 ` Re: Feature freeze Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
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From: Nathan Bossart @ 2025-04-08 15:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>; +Cc: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL-development <[email protected]>
On Tue, Apr 08, 2025 at 05:13:15PM +0200, Daniel Gustafsson wrote:
>> On 8 Apr 2025, at 16:59, Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Frankly, I think the name "anywhere on Earth" is confusing, since it
>> really is "everywhere on Earth":
>
> I find both of the above needlessly confusing when we instead could use UTC
> which is a more universally understood concept.
+1 for UTC.
--
nathan
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* Re: Feature freeze
2025-04-08 14:36 Feature freeze Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2025-04-08 14:59 ` Re: Feature freeze Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2025-04-08 15:13 ` Re: Feature freeze Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>
2025-04-08 15:20 ` Re: Feature freeze Nathan Bossart <[email protected]>
@ 2025-04-08 15:53 ` Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
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From: Bruce Momjian @ 2025-04-08 15:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Geoghegan <[email protected]>; +Cc: Nathan Bossart <[email protected]>; Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL-development <[email protected]>
On Tue, Apr 8, 2025 at 11:45:09AM -0400, Peter Geoghegan wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2025 at 11:20 AM Nathan Bossart <[email protected]> wrote:
> > +1 for UTC.
>
> +1, I think that AoE is needlessly obscure
We did have this discussion when AoE was chosen for PG 18 and the idea
was that as long as it is before April 18 midnight wherever you are, it
is not feature freeze yet.
--
Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> https://momjian.us
EDB https://enterprisedb.com
Do not let urgent matters crowd out time for investment in the future.
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* Re: Feature freeze
2025-04-08 14:36 Feature freeze Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2025-04-08 14:59 ` Re: Feature freeze Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2025-04-08 15:13 ` Re: Feature freeze Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>
@ 2025-04-09 06:56 ` John Naylor <[email protected]>
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From: John Naylor @ 2025-04-09 06:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]>; +Cc: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL-development <[email protected]>
On Tue, Apr 8, 2025 at 10:13 PM Daniel Gustafsson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I find both of the above needlessly confusing when we instead could use UTC
> which is a more universally understood concept.
Indeed, that's what the "U" stands for, after all. :-)
--
John Naylor
Amazon Web Services
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* Re: Feature freeze
2025-04-08 14:36 Feature freeze Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2025-04-08 14:59 ` Re: Feature freeze Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
@ 2025-04-08 16:11 ` Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
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From: Bruce Momjian @ 2025-04-08 16:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; +Cc: PostgreSQL-development <[email protected]>
On Tue, Apr 8, 2025 at 06:00:27PM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> On 08.04.25 16:59, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 8, 2025 at 10:36:45AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > Since we recorded feature freeze as April 8, 2025 0:00 AoE (anywhere on
> > > Earth):
> > >
> > > https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/PostgreSQL_18_Open_Items#Important_Dates
> > > https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/aoe
> > >
> > > and it is now 2:34 AM AoE, I guess we are now in feature freeze.
> >
> > Frankly, I think the name "anywhere on Earth" is confusing, since it
> > really is "everywhere on Earth":
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anywhere_on_Earth
> >
> > Anywhere on Earth (AoE) is a calendar designation that indicates
> > that a period expires when the date passes everywhere on Earth.
>
> Yes, that works intuitively when you specify that sometimes ends when a
> certain day ends, for example:
>
> "The feature development phase ends at the end of day of April 7, AoE."
>
> That means, everyone everywhere can just look up at their clock and see,
> it's still April 7, it's still going. (Of course, others can then do the
> analysis and keep going until some time on April 8, but that would be sort
> of against the spirit.)
>
> If you use it as a time zone with a time of day, it doesn't make intuitive
> sense.
Well, they kind of did this by saying midnight on April 8 AoE, rather
than end-of-day in April 7 AoE. Actually, I had originally said April 8
AoE and then was told I had to specify a time --- maybe the time was the
mistake, and we still have April 8 to add features. ;-)
--
Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> https://momjian.us
EDB https://enterprisedb.com
Do not let urgent matters crowd out time for investment in the future.
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* Re: Feature freeze
2025-04-08 14:36 Feature freeze Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2025-04-08 14:59 ` Re: Feature freeze Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
@ 2025-04-08 16:24 ` Nathan Bossart <[email protected]>
2025-04-08 16:39 ` Re: Feature freeze Nico Williams <[email protected]>
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From: Nathan Bossart @ 2025-04-08 16:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; +Cc: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL-development <[email protected]>
On Tue, Apr 08, 2025 at 06:00:27PM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> On 08.04.25 16:59, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>> Anywhere on Earth (AoE) is a calendar designation that indicates
>> that a period expires when the date passes everywhere on Earth.
>
> Yes, that works intuitively when you specify that sometimes ends when a
> certain day ends, for example:
>
> "The feature development phase ends at the end of day of April 7, AoE."
>
> That means, everyone everywhere can just look up at their clock and see,
> it's still April 7, it's still going. (Of course, others can then do the
> analysis and keep going until some time on April 8, but that would be sort
> of against the spirit.)
I always forget if AoE is UTC+12 or UTC-12. "Anywhere on Earth" sounds to
me like it means "the first moment it's this time anywhere on Earth," which
would be some point during April 7th for me. So every year, I go to
Wikipedia, which reminds me it actually means "the moment this time has
passed everywhere on Earth." At this point, I can finally convert to UTC
and then to my own time zone in my head.
If we just said April 8th, 12:00:00 UTC, I'd immediately know that my
entire April 7th was fair game. Of course, I hope to usually be done
committing things much earlier...
--
nathan
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* Re: Feature freeze
2025-04-08 14:36 Feature freeze Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2025-04-08 14:59 ` Re: Feature freeze Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
2025-04-08 16:24 ` Re: Feature freeze Nathan Bossart <[email protected]>
@ 2025-04-08 16:39 ` Nico Williams <[email protected]>
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From: Nico Williams @ 2025-04-08 16:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Nathan Bossart <[email protected]>; +Cc: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; PostgreSQL-development <[email protected]>
On Tue, Apr 08, 2025 at 11:24:39AM -0500, Nathan Bossart wrote:
> I always forget if AoE is UTC+12 or UTC-12. [...]
One isn't supposed to think "is the freeze on everywhere", just "is the
freeze on for me" and "is the freeze on for this particular contribution
(check the date header)".
Nico
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