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From: Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Cc: David E. Wheeler <david@justatheory.com>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org, Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Cc: Mankirat Singh <mankiratsingh1315@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: abi-compliance-check failure due to recent changes to pg_{clear,restore}_{attribute,relation}_stats()
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2025 10:30:44 -0500
Message-ID: <aQOEpG_AI-z2dmJx@nathan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2944096.1761792564@sss.pgh.pa.us>
References: <2923669.1761781931@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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On Wed, Oct 29, 2025 at 10:49:24PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> No; my proposal was "don't run the ABI check unless the branch has
> a .abi-compliance-history file".  master would normally not contain
> such a file, thus no check.  As I was just discussing with Bruce,
> we could put one there for awhile if we wanted to run ABI checks in
> advance of forking a stable branch.
> 
> The reason I'm so allergic to having any of these decisions made on
> the buildfarm-client side is years of herding cats^W^W trying to get
> buildfarm owners to update their script versions and/or config files.
> It's close to hopeless.  Thus, your proposal a message or three back
> to add another BF client config setting to control this sounds like
> the worst of all possible worlds.  If we needed a change in the
> setting, getting the farm to converge to that would take months if not
> years.  The idea that we could transiently enable checks between beta1
> and branch fork on the basis of that approach is downright risible.
> On the other hand, if the decisions are driven purely by what is in
> our git tree, a change is the work of moments.

I agree with Tom.  The lack of an .abi-compliance-history file should be
taken to mean that we're not interested in maintaining ABI compatibility
across commits for that branch, and the buildfarm check should be skipped.

-- 
nathan





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