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From: Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@oss.nttdata.com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Cc: Hayato Kuroda (Fujitsu) <kuroda.hayato@fujitsu.com>
Cc: Andy Fan <zhihuifan1213@163.com>
Cc: Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Cc: PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: A assert failure when initdb with track_commit_timestamp=on
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2025 00:57:31 +0900
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On 2025/07/05 0:30, Tom Lane wrote:
> Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@oss.nttdata.com> writes:
>> On 2025/07/04 16:29, Hayato Kuroda (Fujitsu) wrote:
>>> If more GUCs were found which cannot be set during the bootstrap mode, how about
>>> introducing a new flag like GUC_DEFAULT_WHILE_BOOTSTRAPPING for GUC variables?
>>> If the flag is set all setting can be ignored when
>>> IsBootstrapProcessingMode() = true.
> 
>> If there are many GUCs that behave incorrectly during bootstrap,
>> a general mechanism like that might be worth considering. But if
>> only a few GUCs are affected, as I believe is the case,
>> then such a mechanism may be overkill.
> 
> As I remarked in the other thread, I don't like inventing a different
> solution for each GUC.  So if there are even two that need something
> done, I think Hayato-san's idea has merit.
> 
> The core of the patch could be as little as
> 
> diff --git a/src/backend/utils/misc/guc.c b/src/backend/utils/misc/guc.c
> index 667df448732..43f289924e6 100644
> --- a/src/backend/utils/misc/guc.c
> +++ b/src/backend/utils/misc/guc.c
> @@ -3464,6 +3464,15 @@ set_config_with_handle(const char *name, config_handle *handle,
>   		return 0;
>   	}
>   
> +	/*
> +	 * Certain GUCs aren't safe to enable during bootstrap mode.  Silently
> +	 * ignore attempts to set them to non-default values.
> +	 */
> +	if (unlikely(IsBootstrapProcessingMode()) &&
> +		(record->flags & GUC_IGNORE_IN_BOOTSTRAP) &&
> +		source != PGC_S_DEFAULT)
> +		changeVal = false;
> +
>   	/*
>   	 * Check if the option can be set at this time. See guc.h for the precise
>   	 * rules.

This code seems to assume that the processing mode is switched to bootstrap before
GUC parameters are processed. But is that actually the case?

Regards,

-- 
Fujii Masao
NTT DATA Japan Corporation






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