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From: Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
To: Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
To: Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Cc: Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Cc: Taylor Vesely <tvesely@pivotal.io>
Cc: Adam Lee <ali@pivotal.io>
Cc: Melanie Plageman <mplageman@pivotal.io>
Cc: PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: Memory-Bounded Hash Aggregation
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2020 18:10:15 +0200
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On 03/02/2020 20:29, Jeff Davis wrote:
> 1. Use a minheap for the freelist. The original design used an array
> that had to be sorted between a read (which frees a block) and a write
> (which needs to sort the array to consume the lowest block number). The
> comments said:
> 
>    * sorted.  This is an efficient way to handle it because we expect
> cycles
>    * of releasing many blocks followed by re-using many blocks, due to
>    * the larger read buffer.
> 
> But I didn't find a case where that actually wins over a simple
> minheap. With that in mind, a minheap seems closer to what one might
> expect for that purpose, and more robust when the assumptions don't
> hold up as well. If someone knows of a case where the re-sorting
> behavior is important, please let me know.

A minheap certainly seems more natural for that. I guess re-sorting the 
array would be faster in the extreme case that you free almost all of 
the blocks, and then consume almost all of the blocks, but I don't think 
the usage pattern is ever that extreme. Because if all the data fit in 
memory, we wouldn't be spilling in the first place.

I wonder if a more advanced heap like the pairing heap or fibonacci heap 
would perform better? Probably doesn't matter in practice, so better 
keep it simple...

> Changing to a minheap effectively solves the problem for HashAgg,
> though in theory the memory consumption of the freelist itself could
> become significant (though it's only 0.1% of the free space being
> tracked).

We could fairly easily spill parts of the freelist to disk, too, if 
necessary. But it's probably not worth the trouble.

> 2. Lazily-allocate the read buffer. The write buffer was always lazily-
> allocated, so this patch creates better symmetry. More importantly, it
> means freshly-rewound tapes don't have any buffer allocated, so it
> greatly expands the number of tapes that can be managed efficiently as
> long as only a limited number are active at once.

Makes sense.

> 3. Allow expanding the number of tapes for an existing tape set. This
> is useful for HashAgg, which doesn't know how many tapes will be needed
> in advance.

I'd love to change the LogicalTape API so that you could allocate and 
free tapes more freely. I wrote a patch to do that, as part of replacing 
tuplesort.c's polyphase algorithm with a simpler one (see [1]), but I 
never got around to committing it. Maybe the time is ripe to do that now?

[1] 
https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/420a0ec7-602c-d406-1e75-1ef7ddc58d83@iki.fi

- Heikki





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