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From: Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
To: PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Cc: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Cc: Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Cc: Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Subject: Re: transction_timestamp() inside of procedures
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 09:35:48 +0200
Message-ID: <e2ad8aaf-e1d8-499e-4de0-e3616f8d908d@2ndquadrant.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ec816bd0-0357-23a9-bea2-3ef1619eb340@2ndquadrant.com>
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On 26/09/2018 23:48, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> On 26/09/2018 17:54, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
>> What could be the use for the transaction timestamp?  I think one of the
>> most important uses (at least in pg_stat_activity) is to verify that
>> transactions are not taking excessively long time to complete; that's
>> known to cause all sorts of trouble in Postgres, and probably other
>> DBMSs too.  If we don't accurately measure what it really is, and
>> instead keep the compatibility behavior, we risk panicking people
>> because they think some transaction has been running for a long time
>> when in reality it's just a very long procedure which commits frequently
>> enough not to be a problem.
> 
> That's certainly a good argument.  Note that if we implemented that the
> transaction timestamp is advanced inside procedures, that would also
> mean that the transaction timestamp as observed in pg_stat_activity
> would move during VACUUM, for example.  That might or might not be
> desirable.

Attached is a rough implementation.

I'd be mildly in favor of doing this, but we have mentioned tradeoffs in
this thread.

-- 
Peter Eisentraut              http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services

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0001-Advance-transaction-timestamp-in-intra-procedure-tra.patch (text/plain, 1.6K) download From 2a8c214479adb4b98c8b6c95875d8bebd88cb940 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 09:33:24 +0200 Subject: [PATCH] Advance transaction timestamp in intra-procedure transactions --- src/backend/access/transam/xact.c | 19 ++++++++++++------- 1 file changed, 12 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-) diff --git a/src/backend/access/transam/xact.c b/src/backend/access/transam/xact.c index 9aa63c8792..245735420c 100644 --- a/src/backend/access/transam/xact.c +++ b/src/backend/access/transam/xact.c @@ -1884,14 +1884,19 @@ StartTransaction(void) TRACE_POSTGRESQL_TRANSACTION_START(vxid.localTransactionId); /* - * set transaction_timestamp() (a/k/a now()). We want this to be the same - * as the first command's statement_timestamp(), so don't do a fresh - * GetCurrentTimestamp() call (which'd be expensive anyway). Also, mark - * xactStopTimestamp as unset. - */ - xactStartTimestamp = stmtStartTimestamp; - xactStopTimestamp = 0; + * set transaction_timestamp() (a/k/a now()). Normally, we want this to + * be the same as the first command's statement_timestamp(), so don't do a + * fresh GetCurrentTimestamp() call (which'd be expensive anyway). But + * for transactions started inside statements (e.g., procedure calls), we + * want to advance the timestamp. + */ + if (xactStartTimestamp < stmtStartTimestamp) + xactStartTimestamp = stmtStartTimestamp; + else + xactStartTimestamp = GetCurrentTimestamp(); pgstat_report_xact_timestamp(xactStartTimestamp); + /* Mark xactStopTimestamp as unset. */ + xactStopTimestamp = 0; /* * initialize current transaction state fields -- 2.19.0

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