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From: Bruce Momjian <maillist@candle.pha.pa.us>
To: sferac@bo.nettuno.it
Cc: daveh@insightdist.com
Cc: pgsql-interfaces@postgreSQL.org
Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgreSQL.org
Cc: vadim@sable.krasnoyarsk.su
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Re: [INTERFACES] ODBC is slow with M$-Access Report
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:21:48 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID: <199806021621.MAA12356@candle.pha.pa.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980601173507.10343A-100000@proxy.bazzanese.com>

> 
> We are working on a project that IMHO give more prestige to
> PostgreSQL.
> The Hygea project concern the use of an Unix-like Operating  sys-
> tem  as  "back-end" of a Client M$-windows application connected
> by ODBC that will be installed in about 80 Italian Helth Depart-
> ments for the veterinary controls and prevention.
> Therefore...
> 
> O.S.: We choose Linux for his proved reliability.
> 
> Client: We choose to develop the Client with M$-Access because we
> need (unfortunately) a complete integration with Micro$oft World.
> 
> Database: We choose PostgreSQL for his reliability  and  for  his
> compatibility with SQL/92 standard recommendation and for his ex-
> cellent technical support provided by "The PostgreSQL Development
> Team" and his mailing lists.

Great.

> 
> Nevertheless  the  union  among M$-Access and PostgreSQL is quite
> suffered for the following reasons:
> 
> 1. The PostgreSQL doesn't use the index with  "OR"  operator  and
> so is not possible to define a multiple key to use with M$-Access
> and we need to retreat using OID as primary keys (thanks to Byron
> Nikolaidis and David Hartwig of insightdist.com that are doing a
> really great job with ODBC driver), but with the obvious consequences.

Yes, we need to work on this.  I am sure performance really suffers
because of this.  Vadim, is this on your short list?

> 
> 2.  As PostgreSQL doesn't allow an "ORDER BY" on columns not
> included in the target list of the "SELECT", (I know that it is
> SQL/92 standard, but IMO it's a fool thing), therefore, is not possible
> to  have the "dynaset "sorted for any field that is different from
> the key (in our case the useless OIDs).

David at Insight just added this, so it certainly will be in 6.4.

> 
> 3. The times required to run complex reports (for example those that
> include LEFT JOINS) is very long (about 15 minutes to retrieve
> 2850 rows).

Yea, we need this too.  Not sure where we are with this.  Can you give
an example?



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