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* Migration
@ 2000-08-08 13:39 Christian Herbert <christian@oven.com>
  2000-08-08 14:59 ` Re: Migration Ross J. Reedstrom <reedstrm@rice.edu>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread

From: Christian Herbert @ 2000-08-08 13:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-interfaces

Does anybody know how complicated the migration progress from postgresql
7.0.2 to oracle 8 would be??

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* Re: Migration
  2000-08-08 13:39 Migration Christian Herbert <christian@oven.com>
@ 2000-08-08 14:59 ` Ross J. Reedstrom <reedstrm@rice.edu>
  2000-08-08 15:22   ` RE: Migration Christian Herbert <christian@oven.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread

From: Ross J. Reedstrom @ 2000-08-08 14:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-interfaces

On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 02:39:45PM +0100, Christian Herbert wrote:
> Does anybody know how complicated the migration progress from postgresql
> 7.0.2 to oracle 8 would be??

Hmm, I'm not sure Don Baccus follows this list, otherwise I'd let him
answer this one (since it's his doc I'm going to point you at). Mostly
we like to encourage people to go the other way, but we all know there
are reasons why on might have to stop using postgresql.

Still, is there an interesting reason? Some feature missing that you've
got to have? The developer's would like to know!

Anyway, there's a porting guide for Oracle -> Postgresql at:

http://www.openacs.org/doc/openacs/html/oracle-to-pg-porting.html

You should be able to use that in reverse, as it were.

Ross
-- 
Ross J. Reedstrom, Ph.D., <reedstrm@rice.edu> 
NSBRI Research Scientist/Programmer
Computer and Information Technology Institute
Rice University, 6100 S. Main St.,  Houston, TX 77005



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* RE: Migration
  2000-08-08 13:39 Migration Christian Herbert <christian@oven.com>
  2000-08-08 14:59 ` Re: Migration Ross J. Reedstrom <reedstrm@rice.edu>
@ 2000-08-08 15:22   ` Christian Herbert <christian@oven.com>
  2000-08-08 17:56     ` Re: Migration Ross J. Reedstrom <reedstrm@rice.edu>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread

From: Christian Herbert @ 2000-08-08 15:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ross J. Reedstrom <reedstrm@rice.edu>; pgsql-interfaces

We are not looking to migrate to Oracle immediately... but the request is to
keep the option open for future migration.

-----Original Message-----
From: pgsql-interfaces-owner@hub.org
[mailto:pgsql-interfaces-owner@hub.org]On Behalf Of Ross J. Reedstrom
Sent: 08 August 2000 16:00
To: pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [INTERFACES] Migration


On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 02:39:45PM +0100, Christian Herbert wrote:
> Does anybody know how complicated the migration progress from postgresql
> 7.0.2 to oracle 8 would be??

Hmm, I'm not sure Don Baccus follows this list, otherwise I'd let him
answer this one (since it's his doc I'm going to point you at). Mostly
we like to encourage people to go the other way, but we all know there
are reasons why on might have to stop using postgresql.

Still, is there an interesting reason? Some feature missing that you've
got to have? The developer's would like to know!

Anyway, there's a porting guide for Oracle -> Postgresql at:

http://www.openacs.org/doc/openacs/html/oracle-to-pg-porting.html

You should be able to use that in reverse, as it were.

Ross
--
Ross J. Reedstrom, Ph.D., <reedstrm@rice.edu>
NSBRI Research Scientist/Programmer
Computer and Information Technology Institute
Rice University, 6100 S. Main St.,  Houston, TX 77005




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* Re: Migration
  2000-08-08 13:39 Migration Christian Herbert <christian@oven.com>
  2000-08-08 14:59 ` Re: Migration Ross J. Reedstrom <reedstrm@rice.edu>
  2000-08-08 15:22   ` RE: Migration Christian Herbert <christian@oven.com>
@ 2000-08-08 17:56     ` Ross J. Reedstrom <reedstrm@rice.edu>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread

From: Ross J. Reedstrom @ 2000-08-08 17:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-interfaces

On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 04:22:00PM +0100, Christian Herbert wrote:
> We are not looking to migrate to Oracle immediately... but the request is to
> keep the option open for future migration.

Fair enough. That's how I convinced my team to using postgresql for our
project: use postgresql for development, and move to Oracle if needed
for scale up.

In that light, the trick is to stick with bog standard SQL: use no
special features of pgsql. Or if you do, make sure they're either Oracle
compatability features, or that there is a simple Oracle replacement.

Ross
-- 
Ross J. Reedstrom, Ph.D., <reedstrm@rice.edu> 
NSBRI Research Scientist/Programmer
Computer and Information Technology Institute
Rice University, 6100 S. Main St.,  Houston, TX 77005



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* Re: Migration
@ 2000-08-14 18:08 John David Garza <garza@cjas.org>
  2000-08-14 18:41 ` Re: Migration Ross J. Reedstrom <reedstrm@rice.edu>
  2000-08-14 19:04 ` RE: Migration Darren King <darrenk@insightdist.com>
  2000-08-14 19:05 ` Re: Migration Mike Mascari <mascarm@mascari.com>
  2000-08-14 20:27 ` Re: Migration Chris Ryan <chris@greatbridge.com>
  0 siblings, 4 replies; 9+ messages in thread

From: John David Garza @ 2000-08-14 18:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-interfaces

Hello all,

I've got another question for anybdy that's done Postgres -> Oracle
migrations.  Is there a way for oracle's sqlpls to do a read from <stdin>
like psql does with the pg_dump files? Or am i going to have to take this
pg_dump file and replace all the <stdin> lines with INSERT lines?

Or, is there a way for pg_dump to just dump sql only?

John David Garza
garza@keyframe.cjas.org





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* Re: Migration
  2000-08-14 18:08 Re: Migration John David Garza <garza@cjas.org>
@ 2000-08-14 18:41 ` Ross J. Reedstrom <reedstrm@rice.edu>
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread

From: Ross J. Reedstrom @ 2000-08-14 18:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-interfaces

On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 02:08:27PM -0400, John David Garza wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I've got another question for anybdy that's done Postgres -> Oracle
> migrations.  Is there a way for oracle's sqlpls to do a read from <stdin>
> like psql does with the pg_dump files? Or am i going to have to take this
> pg_dump file and replace all the <stdin> lines with INSERT lines?
> 
> Or, is there a way for pg_dump to just dump sql only?

Perhaps one of the [dD] options will be of help?

wallace$ pg_dump --help 
pg_dump dumps a database as a text file.

Usage:
  pg_dump [options] dbname

Options:
  -a, --data-only          dump out only the data, not the schema
  -c, --clean              clean (drop) schema prior to create
  -C, --create             output commands to create database
  -d, --inserts            dump data as INSERT, rather than COPY, commands
  -D, --attribute-inserts  dump data as INSERT commands with attribute names
...

Ross
-- 
Ross J. Reedstrom, Ph.D., <reedstrm@rice.edu> 
NSBRI Research Scientist/Programmer
Computer and Information Technology Institute
Rice University, 6100 S. Main St.,  Houston, TX 77005



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* RE: Migration
  2000-08-14 18:08 Re: Migration John David Garza <garza@cjas.org>
@ 2000-08-14 19:04 ` Darren King <darrenk@insightdist.com>
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread

From: Darren King @ 2000-08-14 19:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-interfaces@hub.org; +Cc: garza@keyframe.cjas.org

> I've got another question for anybdy that's done Postgres -> Oracle
> migrations.  Is there a way for oracle's sqlpls to do a read from <stdin>
> like psql does with the pg_dump files? Or am i going to have to take this
> pg_dump file and replace all the <stdin> lines with INSERT lines?
> 
> Or, is there a way for pg_dump to just dump sql only?

How about coming up with a control file and using SQL*Loader?

Darren



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* Re: Migration
  2000-08-14 18:08 Re: Migration John David Garza <garza@cjas.org>
@ 2000-08-14 19:05 ` Mike Mascari <mascarm@mascari.com>
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread

From: Mike Mascari @ 2000-08-14 19:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: John David Garza <garza@cjas.org>; +Cc: pgsql-interfaces

John David Garza wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I've got another question for anybdy that's done Postgres -> Oracle
> migrations.  Is there a way for oracle's sqlpls to do a read from <stdin>
> like psql does with the pg_dump files? Or am i going to have to take this
> pg_dump file and replace all the <stdin> lines with INSERT lines?
> 
> Or, is there a way for pg_dump to just dump sql only?

Perhaps pg_dump -d is the solution?

Mike Mascari



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* Re: Migration
  2000-08-14 18:08 Re: Migration John David Garza <garza@cjas.org>
@ 2000-08-14 20:27 ` Chris Ryan <chris@greatbridge.com>
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread

From: Chris Ryan @ 2000-08-14 20:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: John David Garza <garza@cjas.org>; +Cc: pgsql-interfaces

It's been a while since i did much with Oracle but last time I did do
something there was a sql loader (don't remember exact name) but you
create the table seperately then create loader files that specify the
format and table and methods to use to load in a flat datafile. This is
probably more work than you were looking for though; having to break up
the dump file into several files.

Chris Ryan
chris@greatbridge.com

John David Garza wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I've got another question for anybdy that's done Postgres -> Oracle
> migrations.  Is there a way for oracle's sqlpls to do a read from <stdin>
> like psql does with the pg_dump files? Or am i going to have to take this
> pg_dump file and replace all the <stdin> lines with INSERT lines?
> 
> Or, is there a way for pg_dump to just dump sql only?
> 
> John David Garza
> garza@keyframe.cjas.org



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2000-08-08 14:59 ` Ross J. Reedstrom <reedstrm@rice.edu>
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2000-08-08 17:56     ` Ross J. Reedstrom <reedstrm@rice.edu>
2000-08-14 18:08 Re: Migration John David Garza <garza@cjas.org>
2000-08-14 18:41 ` Ross J. Reedstrom <reedstrm@rice.edu>
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