From: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
To: Preston A. Elder <prez@neuromancy.net>
To: pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: Portable interfaces ...
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 11:16:14 +0100
Message-ID: <200403261116.14153.peter_e@gmx.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1080012121.10179.56.camel@temple.srealm.net.au>
References: <1080012121.10179.56.camel@temple.srealm.net.au>
Preston A. Elder wrote:
> I wanted to know exactly which header files I can use portably.
You can use exactly the interfaces (headers and functions) described in
the documentation. No more, no less.
> For example, on my system (Gentoo Linux), libpq-fe.h and
> postgres_ext.h are both installed in /usr/include - thus I'm assuming
> they (or at least libpq-fe.h, which includes postgres_ext.h) can be
> assumed to be available on all unix systems that have postgres
> installed with 'make install'.
Building libpq programs is described here:
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.4/static/libpq-build.html
Any installation that claims to be ready for libpq development should
provide libpq-fe.h and dependent headers in a documented location.
> However, also on Gentoo, a '/usr/include/postgresql' directory is
> created with 'informix', 'internal', 'pgsql' and 'server'
> subdirectories. These subdirectories contain more headers, most of
> which I'm assuming are for internal stuff.
Just because a file exists doesn't mean you should concern yourself with
how to use it. The documentations of the interfaces describe what you
need to use when, how, and for what. In this case, theses files relate
to ECPG and server-side functions. The pgsql directory looks bogus.
> I have need to use two files out of this postgresql directory.
> Specifically:
> server/catalog/pg_type.h to get the OID ID's for all the default
> types (I'm not using it for 'special' types, just the standard ones,
> eg. INT8OID, etc).
It might be preferrable to get the type names by selecting from the
system catalog pg_type.
> server/mb/pg_wchar.h for unicode translation support (I'm assuming
> if I have a unicode field, that it will actually be represented in a
> query as a multi-byte char array, which I can then use pg_mb2wchar to
> convert into a wchar_t *).
You could do that, but the PostgreSQL routines you refer to are not
intended for client programs. You should look in your C library for
this functionality.
> My question is, what is the likelihood of these headers being on most
> unix systems with postgres installed? What is the likelyhood of them
> being under /usr[/local]/postgresql? What is the likelyhood that
> these file names may change, or move? and what about windows
> systems?
That's very difficult to tell. My advice is to stick to the
documentation, and if the steps described in the documentation don't
work, complain to the sysadmin/distributor/installer/packager.
> Unfortunately, the standard API as provided by libpq-fe.h is not
> really extensive enough to be able to write any kind of reasonably
> complex application that wants to do things like support
> localization, or verify the data type is what we expect (or, let the
> database tell it the data type without having to store it or know it
> in advance).
libpq isn't supposed to be a very high-level API. If you want to write
in C, maybe you'll be happier with ODBC.
> Incidentally, I do note that pg_config --includedir-server ==
> /usr/include/postgresql/server on my system, however I do NOT know if
> pg_config is a standard script installed with make install (and thus
> if I can rely on it to point to the server include directory - or, as
> mentioned above, whether the relative paths listed above are
> guarenteed to stay the same).
Again, follow the documentation. If the documentation says to use
pg_config and pg_config does not exist, complain to your packager.
However, if pg_config were actually missing, a lot of other packages
would break, so it's quite safe.
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Reply to all the recipients using the --to and --cc options:
reply via email
To: pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org
Cc: peter_e@gmx.net, prez@neuromancy.net
Subject: Re: Portable interfaces ...
In-Reply-To: <200403261116.14153.peter_e@gmx.net>
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
This inbox is served by DDX for PostgreSQL; see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox