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From: Harry Forster <hforster@strato.net>
To: Iavor Raytchev <iavor.raytchev@verysmall.org>
Cc: pgaccess - developers <developers@pgaccess.org>
Cc: pgsql-interfaces <pgsql-interfaces@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: pgaccess - registration before download
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:26:35 -0400
Message-ID: <3D34E3EB.7050101@strato.net> (raw)
References: <HKEIIDPFPDBMOMDLIEEGKENDCJAA.iavor.raytchev@verysmall.org>

This is the first time that I have responded to this list after years of 
lurking.  I have purchased three PostgresQL books but as yet have not 
developed an application for it.   I will in the future.

Over the past decade I have become a complete convert to open source or 
free software.  I will never again use proprietary software.  I am one 
of those hidden statistics in the O'Reily report "The Strange Case of 
the Disappearing Open Source Vendors"   
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2002/06/28/vendor.html.
<http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2002/06/28/vendor.html;
I believe that open source is going to a more mature level.  The focus 
on tools has provided people like me the oportunity that was never 
available in the propietary markets.  We must find ways to reward  and 
perpetuate the social system that has given us so much.  To do this it 
is important to understand this user market, which we can only do by 
gathering information.  

We should collect some information and it should be analyzed so that we 
can provide a better future.  The problem is what to collect,  how to 
analyze, and why.  This may not be the place to discuss this but we 
should do it.  

I thank the open source community for giving me my life back.   All of 
you are impressive human beings.

Harry





Iavor Raytchev wrote:

>Hello everybody,
>
>
>The reason to ask for this is because in a way it is very exciting to
>work on this project, but I am getting somehow conscious - what is the
>net effect from inspiring these people (there are about six people
>dedicated to pgaccess and may be four more who help in one way or
>another) working on it.
>
>What may be we can do in order not to make it more difficult for people
>who just want to download it fast, is to provide a dual possibility -
>
>a] download
>b] fill in a form before download
>
>And ask kindly people to do it the b] way, explaining to them why it is
>nicer.
>
>The b] way might be completely simple - people just enter their e-mail
>address (as identification only) and fill one text field (or click a
>check box) with the purpose of the download - end user, tester,
>developer, second download, etc. It will not give or require password.
>It might provide also an option (via check box and e-mail that requires
>reply as confirmation) for subscribing the pgaccess mailing lists.
>
>This will provide valuable feedback - we can even make it public - how
>many users pgaccess has, what they use it for, and this way - show if
>our effort is worth or are we just having harmless fun :)
>
>Everything must be very transparent.
>
>All best to everybody,
>
>Iavor
>
>--
>Iavor Raytchev
>very small technologies (a company of CEE Solutions)
>
>in case of emergency -
>
>       call: + 43 676 639 46 49
>or write to: support@verysmall.org
>
>www.verysmall.org
>
>  
>






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