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From: Dave Cramer <pg@fastcrypt.com>
To: Alex Turner <armtuk@gmail.com>
Cc: David Boreham <david_list@boreham.org>
Cc: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: Hardware/OS recommendations for large databases (
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 07:58:43 -0500
Message-ID: <012EB91C-667A-495F-B4F2-F14EE7162ABA@fastcrypt.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <33c6269f0511171150j24f2dd2bq607b69994338aa9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200511161550.jAGFoCY09049@candle.pha.pa.us>
	<437B578C.4000309@boreham.org>
	<33c6269f0511171150j24f2dd2bq607b69994338aa9@mail.gmail.com>


On 17-Nov-05, at 2:50 PM, Alex Turner wrote:

> Just pick up a SCSI drive and a consumer ATA drive.
>
> Feel their weight.
>
> You don't have to look inside to tell the difference.
At one point stereo manufacturers put weights in the case just to  
make them heavier.
The older ones weighed more and the consumer liked heavy stereos.

Be careful what you measure.

Dave
>
> Alex
>
> On 11/16/05, David Boreham <david_list@boreham.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>  I suggest you read this on the difference between enterprise/SCSI  
>> and
>> desktop/IDE drives:
>>
>> http://www.seagate.com/content/docs/pdf/whitepaper/ 
>> D2c_More_than_Interface_ATA_vs_SCSI_042003.pdf
>>
>>
>>  This is exactly the kind of vendor propaganda I was talking about
>>  and it proves my point quite well : that there's nothing specific  
>> relating
>>  to reliability that is different between SCSI and SATA drives  
>> cited in that
>> paper.
>>  It does have a bunch of FUD such as 'oh yeah we do a lot more
>>  drive characterization during manufacturing'.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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