From: Andreas Kostyrka <andreas@kostyrka.org>
To: Richard Huxton <dev@archonet.com>
Cc: Cosimo Streppone <cosimo@streppone.it>
Cc: Postgresql Performance list <pgsql-performance@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: Context switch storm
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:53:02 +0100
Message-ID: <1162561983.16439.3.camel@andi-lap> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <454B4438.9080105@archonet.com>
References: <efc1d7c07cf.454afe8d@brturbo.com.br>
<454B3B75.6@archonet.com>
<454B3EDC.3090502@streppone.it>
<454B4438.9080105@archonet.com>
The solution for us has been twofold:
upgrade to the newest PG version available at the time while we waited
for our new Opteron-based DB hardware to arrive.
Andreas
Am Freitag, den 03.11.2006, 13:29 +0000 schrieb Richard Huxton:
> Cosimo Streppone wrote:
> > Richard Huxton wrote:
> >
> >> creimer@brturbo.com.br wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The average context switching for this server as vmstat shows is 1
> >>> but when the problem occurs it goes to 250000.
> >>
> >> You'll tend to see it when you have multiple clients and most queries
> >> can use RAM rather than disk I/O. My understanding of what happens is
> >> that PG requests data from RAM - it's not in cache so the process gets
> >> suspended to wait. The next process does the same, with the same
> >> result. You end up with lots of processes all fighting over what
> >> data is in the cache and no-one gets much work done.
> >
> > Does this happen also with 8.0, or is specific to 8.1 ?
>
> All versions suffer to a degree - they just push the old Xeon in the
> wrong way. However, more recent versions *should* be better than older
> versions. I believe some work was put in to prevent contention on
> various locks which should reduce context-switching across the board.
>
> > I seem to have the same exact behaviour for an OLTP-loaded 8.0.1 server
>
> upgrade from 8.0.1 - the most recent is 8.0.9 iirc
>
> > when I raise `shared_buffers' from 8192 to 40000.
> > I would expect an increase in tps/concurrent clients, but I see an average
> > performance below a certain threshold of users, and when concurrent users
> > get above that level, performance starts to drop, no matter what I do.
>
> Are you seeing a jump in context-switching in top? You'll know when you
> do - it's a *large* jump. That's the key diagnosis. Otherwise it might
> simply be your configuration settings aren't ideal for that workload.
>
> > Server logs and io/vm statistics seem to indicate that there is little
> > or no disk activity but machine loads increases to 7.0/8.0.
> > After some minutes, the problem goes away, and performance returns
> > to acceptable levels.
>
> That sounds like it. Query time increases across the board as all the
> clients fail to get any data back.
>
> > When the load increases, *random* database queries show this "slowness",
> > even if they are perfectly planned and indexed.
> >
> > Is there anything we can do?
>
> Well, the client I saw it with just bought a dual-opteron server and
> used their quad-Xeon for something else. However, I do remember that 8.1
> seemed better than 7.4 before they switched. Part of that might just
> have been better query-planning and other efficiences though.
>
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