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From: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
To: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: Bypassing useless ORDER BY in a VIEW
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:52:15 -0500
Message-ID: <16851.1204235535@sss.pgh.pa.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47C6F8EE.1080409@ultimeth.com>
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"Dean Gibson (DB Administrator)" <postgresql@ultimeth.com> writes:
> Of course, where ORDER BY in a VIEW is really helpful, is with OFFSET 
> and/or LIMIT clauses (which are also PostgreSQL extensions), which is 
> equivalent to what you point out.

Right, which is the main reason why we allow it.  I think that these
are sort of poor man's cases of things that SQL2003 covers with
"windowing functions".

The SQL spec treats ORDER BY as a cosmetic thing that you can slap onto
the final output of a SELECT.  They don't consider it useful in
subqueries (including views) because row ordering is never supposed to
be a semantically significant aspect of a set of rows.

			regards, tom lane



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