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From: Jim C. Nasby <jnasby@pervasive.com>
To: Christopher Browne <cbbrowne@acm.org>
Cc: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: Default autovacuum settings too conservative
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 01:26:21 -0600
Message-ID: <20060207072621.GI13592@pervasive.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m38xsn4rvm.fsf@mobile.int.cbbrowne.com>
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On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 10:14:53PM -0800, Christopher Browne wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 04:37:07PM -0500, Matthew T. O'Connor wrote:
> >> I think the default settings should be designed to minimize the impact 
> >> autovacuum has on the system while preventing the system from ever 
> >> getting wildly bloated (also protect xid wraparound, but that doesn't 
> >> have anything to do with the thresholds).
> >
> > I don't really see the logic behind that. Problems caused by inadequate
> > vacuuming seem to be much more prevalent than problems caused by vacuum
> > impacting the system. If vacuum impact is a concern I think it more
> > reasonable to make the default vacuum_cost_delay non-zero instead.
> 
> That's a good point.
> 
> I would not be keen, on the other hand, on having the delays terribly
> high.
> 
> Big tables, if delayed significantly, will take plenty longer to
> vacuum, and I always get paranoid about long running transactions :-).

Very true, but I'd hope anyone running a table large enough for this to
make a difference would have done some tuning of their own...

What we really need is a replacement for vacuum_delay that takes
PostgreSQL generated IO activity into account...
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Jim C. Nasby, Sr. Engineering Consultant      jnasby@pervasive.com
Pervasive Software      http://pervasive.com    work: 512-231-6117
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