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From: Peter Schuller <peter.schuller@infidyne.com>
To: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Cc: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: VACUUM ANALYZE blocking both reads and writes to a table
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:43:18 +0200
Message-ID: <20080630154318.GB15756@hyperion.scode.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080630152515.GF10311@alvh.no-ip.org>
References: <20080630145903.GA15197@hyperion.scode.org>
	<20080630152515.GF10311@alvh.no-ip.org>

Actually, while on the topic:

>     date: 2007-09-10 13:58:50 -0400;  author: alvherre;  state: Exp;  lines: +6 -2;
>     Remove the vacuum_delay_point call in count_nondeletable_pages, because we hold
>     an exclusive lock on the table at this point, which we want to release as soon
>     as possible.  This is called in the phase of lazy vacuum where we truncate the
>     empty pages at the end of the table.

Even with the fix the lock is held. Is the operation expected to be
"fast" (for some definition of "fast") and in-memory, or is this
something that causes significant disk I/O and/or scales badly with
table size or similar?

I.e., is this enough that, even without the .4 bug, one should not
really consider VACUUM ANALYZE non-blocking with respect to other
transactions?

(I realize various exclusive locks are taken for short periods of time
even for things that are officially declared non-blocking; the
question is whether this falls into this category.)

-- 
/ Peter Schuller

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