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From: Arjen van der Meijden <acmmailing@tweakers.net>
To: Jignesh K. Shah <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Cc: pgsql-performance <pgsql-performance@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: Pgsql (and mysql) benchmark on T2000/Solaris and some
Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 15:54:14 +0200
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Hi Jignesh,

Jignesh K. Shah wrote:
> Hi Arjen,
> 
> Looking at your outputs...of syscall and usrcall it looks like
> 
> * Spending too much time in semsys .... which means you have too many 
> connections and they are contending to get a lock.. which is potentially 
> the WAL log lock
> 
> * llseek is high which means you can obviously gain a bit with the right 
> file system/files tuning by caching them right.
> 
> Have you set the values for Solaris for T2000 tuned for Postgresql?

Not particularly, we got a "special T2000 Solaris dvd" from your 
colleagues here in the Netherlands and installed that (actually one of 
your colleagues did). Doing so all the "better default" 
/etc/system-settings are supposed to be set. I haven't really checked 
that they are, since two of your colleagues have been working on it for 
the mysql-version of the benchmark and I assumed they'd have verified that.

> Check out the tunables from the following URL
> 
> http://www.sun.com/servers/coolthreads/tnb/applications_postgresql.jsp
> 
> Try specially the /etc/system and postgresql.conf changes  and see if it 
> changes/improves your performance.

I will see that those tunables are verified to be set.

I am a bit surprised though about your remarks, since they'd point at 
the I/O being in the way? But we only have about 600k/sec i/o according 
to vmstat. The database easily fits in memory.
In total I logged about 500k queries of which only 70k where altering 
queries, of which almost all where inserts in log-tables which aren't 
actively read in this benchmark.

But I'll give it a try.

Best regards,

Arjen

> 
> Arjen van der Meijden wrote:
>> Hi List,
>>
>> In the past few weeks we have been developing a read-heavy 
>> mysql-benchmark to have an alternative take at 
>> cpu/platform-performance. Not really to have a look at how fast mysql 
>> can be.
>>
>> This benchmark runs on mysql 4.1.x, 5.0.x and 5.1.x and is modelled 
>> after our website's production database and the load generated on it 
>> is modelled after a simplified version of our visitor behaviour.
>>
>> Long story short, we think the test is a nice example of the 
>> relatively lightweight, read-heavy webapplications out there and 
>> therefore decided to have a go at postgresql as well.
>> Of course the queries and indexes have been adjusted to (by our 
>> knowledge) best suit postgresql, while maintaining the same output to 
>> the application/interface layer. While the initial structure only got 
>> postgresql at about half the performance of mysql 4.1.x, the current 
>> version of our postgresql-benchmark has quite similar results to mysql 
>> 4.1.x, but both are quite a bit slower than 5.0.x (I think its about 
>> 30-40% faster).
>>
>> Since the results from those benchmarks are not yet public (they will 
>> be put together in a story at our website), I won't go into too much 
>> details about this benchmark.
>>
>> Currently we're having a look at a Sun T2000 and will be looking at 
>> will be looking at other machines as well in the future. We are 
>> running the sun-release of postgresql 8.1.3 on that T2000 now, but are 
>> looking at compiling the cvs-head version (for its index-root-cache) 
>> somewhere this week.
>>
>> My guess is there are a few people on this list who are interested in 
>> some dtrace results taken during our benchmarks on that T2000.
>> Although my knowledge of both Solaris and Dtrace are very limited, I 
>> already took some samples of the system and user calls. I used Jignesh 
>> Shah's scripts for that: 
>> http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jkshah?entry=profiling_postgresql_using_dtrace_on 
>>
>>
>> You can find the samples here:
>> http://achelois.tweakers.net/~acm/pgsql-t2000/syscall.log
>> http://achelois.tweakers.net/~acm/pgsql-t2000/usrcall.log
>>
>> And I also did the memcpy-scripts, here:
>> http://achelois.tweakers.net/~acm/pgsql-t2000/memcpysize.log
>> http://achelois.tweakers.net/~acm/pgsql-t2000/memcpystack.log
>> (this last log is 3.5MB)
>>
>> If anyone is interested in some more dtrace results, let me know (and 
>> tell me what commands to run ;-) ).
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Arjen
>>
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