From: Jean-Paul Argudo <jean-paul@argudo.org>
To: Olivier Andreotti <olivier.andreotti@gmail.com>
Cc: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: Benchmarck PostgreSQL 8.1.4 MySQL 5.0.20 and Oracle
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 12:48:42 +0200
Message-ID: <446C510A.9040609@argudo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d5d40b330605180257w2a0cb2dei53d81cbe0d7405e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d5d40b330605180257w2a0cb2dei53d81cbe0d7405e@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Olivier,
First question I'd like to ask is: will this benchmark and its results
will be accessible on the net when you'll have finished ?
I'm interested about your benchmark and your results.
> I'm running a benchmark with theses 3 databases, and the first results
> are not very good for PostgreSQL.
Hope I can give you hints to enhance PostgreSQL's performances in your
benchmark.
> PostgreSQL is 20% less performance than MySQL (InnoDB tables)
I think MySQL's tuning is comparable to PostgreSQL's?
> My benchmark uses the same server for theses 3 databases :
> Dell Power edge - Xeon 2.8 Ghz - 2 Go Ram - 3 SCSI disks - Debian
> Sarge - Linux 2.6
ok. 3 disks is really few for a database server IMHO (more disks, better
I/O *if* you span database files onto disks).
> The transactions are a random mix of request in read (select) and
> write (insert, delete, update) on many tables about 100 000 to 15 000
> 000 rows.
ok. But.. What's the size of your database ?
[see it in psql with: select pg_size_pretty(pg_database_size('myDatabase');]
> Transactions are executed from 500 connections.
You mean its a progressive test (1, 10, 100, 400, 500..???) or 500 from
the very beggining ?
> For the tunning of PostgreSQL i use official documentation and theses
> web sites :
>
> http://www.revsys.com/writings/postgresql-performance.html
> http://www.varlena.com/GeneralBits/Tidbits/annotated_conf_e.html
Those pages are great if you want to reach to a great postgresql.conf.
> Some important points of my postgresql.conf file :
>
> max_connections = 510
> shared_buffer = 16384
> max_prepared_transactions = 510
why? whats the point putting 510 here?
> work_mem = 1024
I found that value really low. But you'll have to check if you need
more. Thats all about looking for temporary files creation under $PGDATA.
> maintenance_work_mem = 1024
This has to be increased dramatically, I really reccomend you read this
page too: http://www.powerpostgresql.com/PerfList/> fsync = off
Thats pretty unsecure for a production database. I don't think it is
good to test PostgreSQL with fsync off, since this won't reflect the
final configuration of a production server.
> wal_buffers = 32
A great value would be 64. Some tests already concluded that 64 is a
good value for large databases.
You'll *have to* move $PGDATA/pg_xlog/ too (see end of this mail).
> commit_delay = 500
> checkpoint_segments = 10
Put something larger than that. I use often use like 64 for large databases.
> checkpoint_timeout = 300
> checkpoint_warning = 0
> effective_cache_size = 165 000
Try 174762 (2/3 the ram installed). Wont be a great enhance, for sure,
but let's put reccomended values.
> autovaccuum = on
Thats a critic point. Personaly I dont use autovacuum. Because I just
don't want a vacuum to be started ... when the server is loaded :)
I prefer control vacuum process, when its possible (if its not,
autovacuum is the best choice!), for example, a nighlty vacuum...
A question for you: after setting up your test database, did you launch
a vacuum full analyze of it ?
> default_transaction_isolation = 'read_committed'
> What do you think of my tunning ?
IMHO, it is fairly good, since you put already somewhat good values.
Try too to set "max_fsm_pages" depending what PostgreSQL tells you in
the logfile... (see again http://www.powerpostgresql.com/PerfList/)
With XEON, you have to lower "random_page_cost" to 3 too.
You don't mention files organisation ($PGDATA, the PG "cluster") of your
server?
I mean, it is now well known that you *have to* move pg_xlog/ directory
to another (array of) disk! Because otherwise its the same disk head
that writes into WALs _and_ into files...
OTOH you are using "fsync=off", that any DBA wouldn't reccomend.. Well,
ok, it's for testing purposes.
Same remark, if you can create tablespaces to span database files
accross (array of) disks, even better. But with 3 disks, its somewhat
limitated: move pg_xlog before anything else.
Now about "client side", I reccomend you install and use pgpool, see:
http://pgpool.projects.postgresql.org/ . Because "pgpool caches the
connection to PostgreSQL server to reduce the overhead to establish the
connection to it". Allways good :)
Hope those little hints will help you in getting the best from your
PostgreSQL server.
Keep us on touch,
--
Jean-Paul Argudo
www.PostgreSQLFr.org
www.dalibo.com
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