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From: Richard Huxton <dev@archonet.com>
To: Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Cc: Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Cc: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org, "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@sun.com>
Cc: Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
Subject: Re: Benchmark Data requested
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:05:18 +0000
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Simon Riggs wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 14:43 +0000, Richard Huxton wrote:
>> Simon Riggs wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 15:06 +0100, Dimitri Fontaine wrote:
>>>> Le lundi 04 février 2008, Jignesh K. Shah a écrit :
>>>>> Multiple table loads ( 1 per table) spawned via script  is bit better
>>>>> but hits wal problems.
>>>> pgloader will too hit the WAL problem, but it still may have its benefits, or 
>>>> at least we will soon (you can already if you take it from CVS) be able to 
>>>> measure if the parallel loading at the client side is a good idea perf. wise.
>>> Should be able to reduce lock contention, but not overall WAL volume.
>> In the case of a bulk upload to an empty table (or partition?) could you 
>> not optimise the WAL away? That is, shouldn't the WAL basically be a 
>> simple transformation of the on-disk blocks? You'd have to explicitly 
>> sync the file(s) for the table/indexes of course, and you'd need some 
>> work-around for WAL shipping, but it might be worth it for you chaps 
>> with large imports.
> 
> Only by locking the table, which serializes access, which then slows you
> down or at least restricts other options. Plus if you use pg_loader then
> you'll find only the first few rows optimized and all the rest not.

Hmm - the table-locking requirement is true enough, but why would 
pg_loader cause problems after the first few rows?

-- 
   Richard Huxton
   Archonet Ltd



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