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From: Heikki Linnakangas <heikki@enterprisedb.com>
To: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Cc: Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
Cc: Pavan Deolasee <pavan.deolasee@gmail.com>
Cc: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: I/O on select count(*)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 16:15:50 +0100
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Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> Greg Smith escribió:
>> On Thu, 15 May 2008, Pavan Deolasee wrote:
>>
>>> I had suggested in the past that whenever we set hint bits for a tuple, 
>>> we should check all other tuples in the page and set their hint bits 
>>> too to avoid multiple writes of the same page. I guess the idea got 
>>> rejected because of lack of benchmarks to prove the benefit.
>>
>> From glancing at http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs.TODO.html I got the  
>> impression the idea was to have the background writer get involved to 
>> help with this particular situation.
> 
> The problem is that the bgwriter does not understand about the content
> of the pages it is writing -- they're opaque pages for all it knows.  So
> it cannot touch the hint bits.

We know what kind of a relation we're dealing with in ReadBuffer, so we 
could add a flag to BufferDesc to mark heap pages.

> If we had the bitmask in a separate map fork, this could be cheap.

I don't buy that. The point of a hint bit is that it's right there along 
with the tuple you're looking at. If you have to look at a separate 
buffer, you might as well just look at clog.

-- 
   Heikki Linnakangas
   EnterpriseDB   http://www.enterprisedb.com



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