From: damien hostin <damien.hostin@axege.com>
To: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: Slow query with planner row strange estimation
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 16:39:38 +0200
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Hello again,
At last, I check the same query with the same data on my desktop
computer. Just after loading the data, the queries were slow, I launch a
vaccum analyse which collect good stats on the main table, the query
became quick (~200ms). Now 1classic sata disk computer is faster than
our little monster server !!
I compare the volume between the two database. On my desktop computer,
the table dwinv has 12000 row with 6000 implicated in my query. The dev
server has 6000000 rows with only 6000 implicated in the query. I check
the repartition of the column I am using in this query and actually,
only the 6000 rows implicated in the query are using column with non
null values. I put statistics target on this columns at 10000 which make
the analyse take half the table as sample for stats. This way I get some
values for these columns. But the execution plan is still mistaking.
(plan : http://explain.depesz.com/s/LKW)
I try to compare with desktop plan, but it seems to have nothing
comparable. I though I would find something like "access on dwhinv with
6000 estimated rows", but it does the following :
http://explain.depesz.com/s/kbn
I don't understand "rows=0" in :
Index Scan using dwhinv_dig_idx on dwhinv (cost=0.00..25.91 rows=1
width=80) (actual time=0.009..0.010 rows=0 loops=120)
* Index Cond: ((dwhinv.dwhinv___rsadigide)::text =
(adi2.rsaadi_i_rsadigide)::text)
* Filter: (((dwhinv.dwhinv___rforefide)::text = 'HPLUS'::text) AND
(dwhinv.dwhinv___rfoindrvs = 1) AND
((dwhinv.dwhinv___rfodomide)::text = 'PMSI'::text) AND
((dwhinv.dwhinv___rfoindide)::text = 'recN3_BB_reel'::text))
I also managed to make the query run 10x faster with SQL92 join syntax
instead of old "from table1, table where table1.col1=table2.col1". This
way the query takes 3sec instead of 30sec. But again, without nested
loops, 200ms !
I will try later with new mondrian release and a better balanced fact
table.
Thanks anyway__
damien hostin a écrit :
> Hello,
>
> Postgresql configuration was default. So I take a look at pgtune which
> help me start a bit of tuning. I thought that the planner mistake
> could come from the default low memory configuration. But after
> applying new parameters, nothing has changed. The query is still low,
> the execution plan is still using nested loops where
> hashjoin/hashmerge seems a lot better.
>
> Here are the postgresql.conf parameters I changed using pgtune
> advises, all other are defaults.
> (The hardware is a 10 SAS drive (15k) on a single RAID 10 array with
> 8Go RAM, with 2 opteron dual core 64bit (I can't remember the exact
> model))
>
> # generated for 100 connection and 6G RAM with datawarehouse type
> #
> default_statistics_target = 100
> maintenance_work_mem = 768MB
> #constraint_exclusion = on
> #checkpoint_completion_target = 0.9
> effective_cache_size = 4608MB
> work_mem = 30MB
> wal_buffers = 32MB
> checkpoint_segments = 64
> shared_buffers = 1536MB
>
> Some information that I may have forgotten.
> SELECT version();
> "PostgreSQL 8.4.3 on x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, compiled by GCC gcc-4.4.real
> (Ubuntu 4.4.1-4ubuntu8) 4.4.1, 64-bit"
>
>
> and here is a link with the full request explain analyse
> http://explain.depesz.com/s/Yx0
>
>
> I will try the same query with the same data on another server, with
> "PostgreSQL 8.3.11 on i486-pc-linux-gnu, compiled by GCC cc (GCC)
> 4.2.4 (Ubuntu 4.2.4-1ubuntu3)".
>
>
> damien hostin a écrit :
>> Hello,
>>
>> Before the week end I tried to change the index, but even with the
>> mono-column index on differents columns, the estimated number of rows
>> from dwhinv is 1.
>>
>> Anyone have a suggestion, what can I check ?
>>
>>
>> thx
>>
>>
>> damien hostin a écrit :
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I try to make a query run quicker but I don't really know how to
>>> give hints to the planner.
>>>
>>> We are using postgresql 8.4.3 64bit on ubuntu 9.10 server. The
>>> hardware is a 10 SAS drive (15k) on a single RAID 10 array with 8Go
>>> RAM.
>>> Queries come from J2EE application (OLAP cube), but running them in
>>> pg_admin perform the same way.
>>>
>>> I made a short example that shows what I think is the problem. The
>>> real query is much longer but with only one join it already cause
>>> problems.
>>>
>>> Here is the short example :
>>>
>>> select rfoadv_8.rfoadvsup as c8,
>>> sum(dwhinv.dwhinvqte) as m0
>>> from
>>> dwhinv as dwhinv,
>>> rfoadv as rfoadv_8
>>> where (dwhinv.dwhinv___rforefide = 'HPLUS'
>>> and (dwhinv.dwhinv___rfodomide = 'PMSI' and
>>> dwhinv.dwhinv___rfoindrvs = '1' and
>>> dwhinv.dwhinv___rfoindide='recN3_BB_reel') )
>>> and dwhinv.dwhinv_p2rfodstide = rfoadv_8.rfoadvinf
>>> and rfoadv_8.rfoadvsup = 'ACTI'
>>> group by rfoadv_8.rfoadvsup
>>>
>>> dwhinv is a table with almost 6.000.000 records
>>> rfoadv is a view with 800.000 records
>>> rfoadv is based on rfoade which is 50.000 records
>>>
>>> Here is the explain analyse :
>>> GroupAggregate (cost=0.00..16.56 rows=1 width=13) (actual
>>> time=2028.452..2028.453 rows=1 loops=1)
>>> -> Nested Loop (cost=0.00..16.54 rows=1 width=13) (actual
>>> time=0.391..1947.432 rows=42664 loops=1)
>>> Join Filter: (((ade2.rfoadegch)::text >=
>>> (ade1.rfoadegch)::text) AND ((ade2.rfoadedrt)::text <=
>>> (ade1.rfoadedrt)::text))
>>> -> Nested Loop (cost=0.00..12.54 rows=1 width=214) (actual
>>> time=0.304..533.281 rows=114350 loops=1)
>>> -> Index Scan using dwhinv_rdi_idx on dwhinv
>>> (cost=0.00..4.87 rows=1 width=12) (actual time=0.227..16.827
>>> rows=6360 loops=1)
>>> Index Cond: (((dwhinv___rforefide)::text =
>>> 'HPLUS'::text) AND ((dwhinv___rfodomide)::text = 'PMSI'::text) AND
>>> ((dwhinv___rfoindide)::text = 'recN3_BB_reel'::text) AND
>>> (dwhinv___rfoindrvs = 1))
>>> -> Index Scan using rfoade_dsi_idx on rfoade ade2
>>> (cost=0.00..7.63 rows=3 width=213) (actual time=0.007..0.037 rows=18
>>> loops=6360)
>>> Index Cond: ((ade2.rfoade_i_rfodstide)::text =
>>> (dwhinv.dwhinv_p2rfodstide)::text)
>>> -> Index Scan using rfoade_pk on rfoade ade1
>>> (cost=0.00..3.98 rows=1 width=213) (actual time=0.008..0.009 rows=0
>>> loops=114350)
>>> Index Cond: (((ade1.rfoade___rforefide)::text =
>>> (ade2.rfoade___rforefide)::text) AND
>>> ((ade1.rfoade_i_rfodstide)::text = 'ACTI'::text) AND
>>> ((ade1.rfoade___rfovdeide)::text = (ade2.rfoade___rfovdeide)::text)
>>> AND (ade1.rfoadervs = ade2.rfoadervs))
>>>
>>> We can see that the planner think that accessing dwhinv with the
>>> dwhinv_rdi_idx index will return 1 row, but in fact there are 6360.
>>> So the nested loop is not done with 1 loop but 6360. With only one
>>> Join, the query runs in about 1.5 sec which is not really long, but
>>> with 8 join, the same mistake is repeated 8 times, the query runs in
>>> 30-60 sec. I try to disable nested loop, hash join and merge join
>>> are done instead of nested loops, example query runs in 0.2 - 0.5
>>> sec, and the real query no more that 1 sec ! Which is great.
>>>
>>> Here is the execution plan with nested loop off:
>>>
>>> GroupAggregate (cost=12.56..2453.94 rows=1 width=13) (actual
>>> time=817.306..817.307 rows=1 loops=1)
>>> -> Hash Join (cost=12.56..2453.93 rows=1 width=13) (actual
>>> time=42.583..720.746 rows=42664 loops=1)
>>> Hash Cond: (((ade2.rfoade___rforefide)::text =
>>> (ade1.rfoade___rforefide)::text) AND
>>> ((ade2.rfoade___rfovdeide)::text = (ade1.rfoade___rfovdeide)::text)
>>> AND (ade2.rfoadervs = ade1.rfoadervs))
>>> Join Filter: (((ade2.rfoadegch)::text >=
>>> (ade1.rfoadegch)::text) AND ((ade2.rfoadedrt)::text <=
>>> (ade1.rfoadedrt)::text))
>>> -> Hash Join (cost=4.88..2446.21 rows=1 width=214) (actual
>>> time=42.168..411.962 rows=114350 loops=1)
>>> Hash Cond: ((ade2.rfoade_i_rfodstide)::text =
>>> (dwhinv.dwhinv_p2rfodstide)::text)
>>> -> Seq Scan on rfoade ade2 (cost=0.00..2262.05
>>> rows=47805 width=213) (actual time=0.057..78.988 rows=47805 loops=1)
>>> -> Hash (cost=4.87..4.87 rows=1 width=12) (actual
>>> time=41.632..41.632 rows=6360 loops=1)
>>> -> Index Scan using dwhinv_rdi_idx on dwhinv
>>> (cost=0.00..4.87 rows=1 width=12) (actual time=0.232..28.199
>>> rows=6360 loops=1)
>>> Index Cond: (((dwhinv___rforefide)::text =
>>> 'HPLUS'::text) AND ((dwhinv___rfodomide)::text = 'PMSI'::text) AND
>>> ((dwhinv___rfoindide)::text = 'recN3_BB_reel'::text) AND
>>> (dwhinv___rfoindrvs = 1))
>>> -> Hash (cost=7.63..7.63 rows=3 width=213) (actual
>>> time=0.347..0.347 rows=11 loops=1)
>>> -> Index Scan using rfoade_dsi_idx on rfoade ade1
>>> (cost=0.00..7.63 rows=3 width=213) (actual time=0.095..0.307 rows=11
>>> loops=1)
>>> Index Cond: ((rfoade_i_rfodstide)::text =
>>> 'ACTI'::text)
>>>
>>> Even if dwhinv row estimation is wrong, the query is quicker
>>>
>>>
>>> So after looking at dwhinv_rdi_idx statistics, I found that
>>> dwhinv___rfoindide related stats wasn't good, so I try "ALTER TABLE
>>> dwhinv ALTER dwhinv_p2rfodstide SET STATISTICS 2000" and launch an
>>> vaccum analyse to gather more impressive stats. Stats are better but
>>> query plan is the same and query is not optimised. So I try reindex
>>> on DWHINV as a last chance, but it changes nothing !
>>>
>>> Maybe I'm wrong with the interpretation of the plan but I don't
>>> really think so because with no nested loops this query is really
>>> fast ! I do not plan to disable nested loop on the whole database
>>> because sometimes, nested loops are greats !
>>>
>>> Now I'm stuck ! I don't know how to make the planner understand
>>> there are 6000 rows. Or maybe the 3 column index is a bad idea... ?!
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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