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From: Mladen Gogala <mladen.gogala@vmsinfo.com>
To: Neil Whelchel <neil.whelchel@gmail.com>
Cc: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org <pgsql-performance@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: Slow count(*) again...
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 19:50:36 -0400
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  On 10/11/2010 3:54 PM, Neil Whelchel wrote:
> 1. A faster count(*), or something like my proposed estimate(*).
> 2. A way to get the total rows matched when using LIMIT and OFFSET before
> LIMIT and OFFSET are applied.

The biggest single problem with "select count(*)" is that it is 
seriously overused. People use that idiom to establish existence, which 
usually leads to a performance disaster in the application using it, 
unless the table has no more than few hundred records. SQL language, of 
which PostgreSQL offers an excellent implementation,  offers [NOT] 
EXISTS clause since its inception in the Jurassic era. The problem is 
with the sequential scan, not with counting. I'd even go as far as to 
suggest that 99% instances of the "select count(*)" idiom are probably 
bad use of the SQL language.

-- 
Mladen Gogala
Sr. Oracle DBA
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New York, NY 10036
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