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From: Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
To: felix <crucialfelix@gmail.com>
Cc: Scott Marlowe <scott.marlowe@gmail.com>
Cc: sthomas@peak6.com, "pgsql-performance@postgresql.org" <pgsql-performance@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: Really really slow select count(*)
Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 02:51:50 -0500
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felix wrote:
> So is it normal for postgres to report that it failed to shut down, 
> operate for an hour and then go ahead and restart itself ?

You've already gotten a few explanations for why waiting for connections 
can cause this.  I'll only add that it is critical to be watching the 
database log file when doing work like this with PostgreSQL.  Go back 
and check it if you still have the data from when your problematic 
restart attempt happened, normally you'll get some warnings about it 
starting to shutdown.  Try to look for the actual server shutdown 
message and then the restart one after doing this sort of thing.  If you 
don't see them when you do this again, you'll know something unexpected 
is happening, and then to look into what that is.

Also, as a general downtime commentary born from years of being the 
receiving end of outages, I'd recommend against ever doing any server 
maintenance operation for the first time just before bedtime.  While 
that may be convienent from a "less users are using the site" 
perspective, the downside is what you've seen here:  mistakes can mean 
rather extended outages.  Better to get up early and do this sort of 
thing instead, so you can watch the site afterwards for a few hours to 
make sure nothing is broken.  For similar reasons I try to avoid ever 
doing major changes on a Friday.

-- 
Greg Smith   2ndQuadrant US    greg@2ndQuadrant.com   Baltimore, MD
PostgreSQL Training, Services, and 24x7 Support  www.2ndQuadrant.us
"PostgreSQL 9.0 High Performance": http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/books




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