From: Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
To: Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Cc: Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@mail.com>
Cc: Craig Ringer <craig@2ndQuadrant.com>
Cc: Craig James <cjames@emolecules.com>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Cc: Claudio Freire <klaussfreire@gmail.com>
Cc: Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Cc: David Greco <David_Greco@harte-hanks.com>
Cc: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: Hints (was Poor performance using CTE)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 09:25:52 -0800
Message-ID: <50AD0EA0.7070009@joeconway.com> (raw)
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On 11/21/2012 08:05 AM, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
> Rather than telling the planner what to do or not to do, I'd much rather
> have hints that give the planner more information about the tables and
> quals involved in the query. A typical source of bad plans is when the
> planner gets its cost estimates wrong. So rather than telling the
> planner to use a nested loop join for "a INNER JOIN b ON a.id = b.id",
> the user could tell the planner that there are only 10 rows that match
> the "a.id = b.id" qual. That gives the planner the information it needs
> to choose the right plan on its own. That kind of hints would be much
> less implementation specific and much more likely to still be useful, or
> at least not outright counter-productive, in a future version with a
> smarter planner.
>
> You could also attach that kind of hints to tables and columns, which
> would be more portable and nicer than decorating all queries.
I like this idea, but also think that if we have a syntax to allow
hints, it would be nice to have a simple way to ignore all hints (yes, I
suppose I'm suggesting yet another GUC). That way after sprinkling your
SQL with hints, you could easily periodically (e.g. after a Postgres
upgrade) test what would happen if the hints were removed.
Joe
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