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From: Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
To: Jignesh K. Shah <J.K.Shah@sun.com>
Cc: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Cc: Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Cc: Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
Cc: Kevin Grittner <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Cc: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org <pgsql-performance@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:45:28 -0400
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On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Jignesh K. Shah <J.K.Shah@sun.com> wrote:
> Alvaro Herrera wrote:
>>> So Simon's correct.
>> And perhaps this explains why Jignesh is measuring an improvement on his
>> benchmark.  Perhaps an useful experiment would be to turn this behavior
>> off and compare performance.  This lack of measurement is probably the
>> cause that the suggested patch to fix it was never applied.
>>
>> The patch is here
>> http://archives.postgresql.org//pgsql-hackers/2004-11/msg00935.php
>
> One of the reasons why my patch helps is it keeps this check intact but
> allows other exclusive Wake up.. Now what PostgreSQL calls "Wakes" is  in
> reality just makes a variable indicating wake up and not really signalling a
> process to wake up. This is a key point to note. So when the process wanting
> the exclusive fights the OS Scheduling policy to finally get time on the CPU
> then it   check the value to see if it is allowed to wake up and potentially

I'm confused.  Is a process waiting for an LWLock is in a runnable
state?  I thought we went to sleep on a semaphore.

...Robert



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