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From: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
To: Philip Lykke Carlsen <philip@hasura.io>
Cc: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: Optimising outer joins in the presence of non-nullable references
Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 10:11:39 -0400
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Philip Lykke Carlsen <philip@hasura.io> writes:
> My question then is, shouldn't the inner and outer join queries be
> semantically equivalent when the columns we are joining on are
> non-nullable foreign keys?

Maybe, but no such knowledge is built into the planner.

> Is there some corner case I'm not considering?

I'm a little suspicious whether it's actually a safe assumption to
make, in view of the fact that enforcement of FKs is delayed till
end-of-statement or even end-of-transaction.  Thus, the relationship
isn't necessarily valid at every instant.

> Would it be a good addition to postgres if it could detect this and
> produce a plan that exploits the indices?

Maybe.  Aside from semantic correctness issues, the big question
would be whether the detection could be made cheap enough to not
be a drag on the 99.99% of cases where it's not helpful.

			regards, tom lane





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