From: Mladen Gogala <gogala.mladen@gmail.com>
To: Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
To: pgsql-performance@lists.postgresql.org
Subject: Re: Better, consistent instrumentation for postgreSQL using a similar API as Oracle
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2021 10:41:59 -0400
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On 10/5/21 04:26, Laurenz Albe wrote:
> have never heard of Jeff Holt, but then there are a lot of wonderful
> and smart people I have never heard of. I tend to be respectful in
> my conversation, regardless if I know the other person or not.
That much is apparent. However, that's no excuse.
>
>> Haughty lectures about "Oracle has it" not being good enough could
>> hardly be more out of place here.
> I have no idea how you arrive at the conclusion that I was delivering
> a haughty lecture. Somebody asked if PostgreSQL would consider applying
> patches he is ready to write, somebody who seems not to be familiar
> with the way PostgreSQL development works, so I tried to give helpful
> pointers.
Your tone of voice did. Plus, you took it on yourself to explain "how
things are done in the Postgres community". I always use hints and Josh
Berkus as an example "how things are done in the Postgres community" and
why is the Postgres progress so slow. You have just provided me another
perfect example of the "community spirit".
>
>> To put it as politely as is possible in this case, shut your pie hole.
> I think you have just disqualified yourself from taking part in this
> conversation. I recommend that you don't embarrass Jeff Holt by trying
> to champion him.
If you are under impression that I want to take part in a conversation,
then you're sorely mistaken. And I have to adjust my style of writing to
make things even more clear. As for Jeff, I don't need to 'champion
him'. He did that all by himself. In his place, I would simply ignore
both this topic and you, Mr. Postgres Community.
--
Mladen Gogala
Database Consultant
Tel: (347) 321-1217
https://dbwhisperer.wordpress.com
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