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From: Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
To: Roberts, Jon <Jon.Roberts@asurion.com>
Cc: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: viewing source code
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:51:33 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.64.0712201736070.13128@westnet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1A6E6D554222284AB25ABE3229A92762112A4F@nrtexcus702.int.asurion.com>
References: <1A6E6D554222284AB25ABE3229A92762112A4F@nrtexcus702.int.asurion.com>

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007, Roberts, Jon wrote:

> I still say this I a needed feature if you want adoption for enterprise 
> level databases in larger companies.

It is to some people, and Joshua's opinion is, like everybody else's, just 
one person's view on what's important.

> The security out of the box is not enough and it is too much to ask 
> everyone implementing PostgreSQL to do it themselves.

This is a fair statement coming from the perspective of someone who 
expects source code protection.  What's not a fair statement is to compare 
the security to Access just because you don't don't understand all the 
options or think they're too complicated.  An inflammatory comment like 
that is just going to make the very developers who could be helping you 
here mad.

The larger distinction that you might not be aware of here is that 
PostgreSQL tries to keep things that can be implemented separately out of 
the database engine itself.  As far as the core database group is 
concerned, if there is a good interface available to provide these 
features, it would be better to have an external project worry about 
things like how to make that interface more palatable to people.  Look at 
pgadmin--that's the reason it's a separate project.

The right question to ask here may not be "why isn't PostgreSQL adding 
these features?", but instead "is there a project that makes this 
low-level capability that already exists easier to use?".  Unfortunately 
for you, making that distinction right now means you're stuck with a 
little bit of study to see whether any of the existing mechanisms might 
meet the need you've already got, which is why people have been suggesting 
things you might look into.

--
* Greg Smith gsmith@gregsmith.com http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD



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