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From: sathiya psql <sathiya.psql@gmail.com>
To: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
Subject: Fwd: count * performance issue
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 12:18:25 +0530
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From: sathiya psql <sathiya.psql@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [PERFORM] count * performance issue
To: "A. Kretschmer" <andreas.kretschmer@schollglas.com>
Cc: psql-performance@postgresql.org


TRIGGER i can use if i want the count of the whole table, but i require for
some of the rows with WHERE condition....

so how to do that ???


On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 12:06 PM, A. Kretschmer <
andreas.kretschmer@schollglas.com> wrote:

> am  Thu, dem 06.03.2008, um  1:26:46 -0500 mailte Mark Mielke folgendes:
> >
> >
> >         There aren't a general solution. If you realy need the exact
> count of
> >         tuples than you can play with a TRIGGER and increase/decrease
> the
> >         tuple-count for this table in an extra table.
> >
> >
> > Of course, this means accepting the cost of obtaining update locks on
> the count
> > table.
> >
> > The original poster should understand that they can either get a fast
> estimated
> > count, or they can get a slow accurate count (either slow in terms of
> select
> > using count(*) or slow in terms of updates using triggers and locking).
> >
> > Other systems have their own issues. An index scan may be faster than a
> table
> > scan for databases that can accurately determine counts using only the
> index,
>
> No. The current index-implementation contains no information about the
> row-visibility within the current transaction. You need to scan the
> whole data-table to obtain if the current row are visible within the
> current transaction.
>
>
> > but it's still a relatively slow operation, and people don't normally
> need an
> > accurate count for records in the range of 100,000+? :-)
>
> right.
>
>
> Andreas
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