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From: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
To: Kevin Brown <kevin@sysexperts.com>
Cc: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [SQL] Yet Another (Simple) Case of Index not used
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 11:58:48 -0400
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Kevin Brown <kevin@sysexperts.com> writes:
> Josh Berkus wrote:
>> They did incorporate a lot of MVCC logic into InnoDB tables, yes.
>> Which means that if SELECT count(*) on an InnoDB table is just as
>> fast as a MyISAM table, then it is not accurate.

> This is not necessarily true.  The trigger-based approach to tracking
> the current number of rows in a table might well be implemented
> internally, and that may actually be much faster than doing it using
> triggers

You missed the point of Josh's comment: in an MVCC system, the correct
COUNT() varies depending on which transaction is asking.  Therefore it
is not possible for a centrally maintained row counter to give accurate
results to everybody, no matter how cheap it is to maintain.

(The cheapness can be disputed as well, since it creates a single point
of contention for all inserts and deletes on the table.  But that's a
different topic.)

			regards, tom lane




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