From: Derek Buttineau|Compu-SOLVE <derek@csolve.net>
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Cc: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: ORDER BY Optimization
Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 14:10:02 -0400
Message-ID: <427FA77A.8070307@csolve.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6227.1115506545@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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<6227.1115506545@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Thanks for the response :)
>You could probably get your larger server to try the no-sort plan if
>you said "set enable_sort = 0" first. It would be interesting to
>compare the EXPLAIN ANALYZE results for that case with the other
>server.
>
>
>
Odd, I went to investigate this switch on the larger server, but the
query planner is now using the reverse index sort for this particular
subscription. I'm guessing it's now accumulated enough rows for the
planner to justify the reverse sort?
Limit (cost=0.00..14808.49 rows=10 width=299) (actual
time=3.760..11.689 rows=10 loops=1)
-> Nested Loop (cost=0.00..15594816.65 rows=10531 width=299)
(actual time=3.750..11.600 rows=10 loops=1)
-> Index Scan Backward using maillog_msg_date_idx on maillog
m (cost=0.00..805268.22 rows=2454190 width=256) (actual
time=0.132..5.548 rows=194 loops=1)
Filter: (spam = 1)
-> Index Scan using
maillog_received_subscription_maillog_id_idx on maillog_received mr
(cost=0.00..6.01 rows=1 width=43) (actual time=0.020..0.021 rows=0
loops=194)
Index Cond: ((mr.subscription = 89) AND (mr.maillog_id =
"outer".id))
Total runtime: 11.878 ms
I decided to try the same query with enable_sort on and off to see what
sort of a difference it made roughly:
With enable_sort = 1:
Limit (cost=7515.77..7515.79 rows=10 width=299) (actual
time=13153.300..13153.412 rows=10 loops=1)
-> Sort (cost=7515.77..7516.26 rows=196 width=299) (actual
time=13153.288..13153.324 rows=10 loops=1)
Sort Key: m.msg_date
-> Nested Loop (cost=0.00..7508.30 rows=196 width=299)
(actual time=0.171..13141.099 rows=853 loops=1)
-> Index Scan using maillog_received_subscription_idx on
maillog_received mr (cost=0.00..4266.90 rows=1069 width=43) (actual
time=0.095..5240.645 rows=993 loops=1)
Index Cond: (subscription = 15245)
-> Index Scan using maillog_pkey on maillog m
(cost=0.00..3.02 rows=1 width=256) (actual time=7.893..7.902 rows=1
loops=993)
Index Cond: ("outer".maillog_id = m.id)
Filter: (spam = 1)
Total runtime: 13153.812 ms
With enable_sort = 0;
Limit (cost=0.00..795580.99 rows=10 width=299) (actual
time=108.345..3801.446 rows=10 loops=1)
-> Nested Loop (cost=0.00..15593387.49 rows=196 width=299) (actual
time=108.335..3801.352 rows=10 loops=1)
-> Index Scan Backward using maillog_msg_date_idx on maillog
m (cost=0.00..805194.97 rows=2453965 width=256) (actual
time=0.338..3338.096 rows=15594 loops=1)
Filter: (spam = 1)
-> Index Scan using
maillog_received_subscription_maillog_id_idx on maillog_received mr
(cost=0.00..6.01 rows=1 width=43) (actual time=0.020..0.020 rows=0
loops=15594)
Index Cond: ((mr.subscription = 15245) AND (mr.maillog_id
= "outer".id))
Total runtime: 3801.676 ms
In comparsion, query plan on the smaller server (it used a sort for this
subscription vs a reverse scan):
Limit (cost=197.37..197.38 rows=6 width=313) (actual
time=883.576..883.597 rows=10 loops=1)
-> Sort (cost=197.37..197.38 rows=6 width=313) (actual
time=883.571..883.577 rows=10 loops=1)
Sort Key: m.msg_date
-> Nested Loop (cost=0.00..197.29 rows=6 width=313) (actual
time=106.334..873.928 rows=47 loops=1)
-> Index Scan using maillog_received_subscription_idx on
maillog_received mr (cost=0.00..109.17 rows=28 width=41) (actual
time=47.289..389.775 rows=58 loops=1)
Index Cond: (subscription = 15245)
-> Index Scan using maillog_pkey on maillog m
(cost=0.00..3.13 rows=1 width=272) (actual time=8.319..8.322 rows=1
loops=58)
Index Cond: ("outer".maillog_id = m.id)
Filter: (spam = 1)
Total runtime: 883.820 ms
>The contents of the pg_stats row for mr.subscription in each server
>would be informative, too.
>
I've increased the statistics targets to 300, so these rows are pretty
bulky, however I've included the rows as text files to this message
(pg_stats_large.txt and pg_stats_small.txt).
>One rowcount estimate that does look
>wrong is
>
> -> Index Scan using maillog_received_subscription_idx on
>maillog_received mr (cost=0.00..17789.73 rows=4479 width=43) (actual
>time=0.030..33554.061 rows=65508 loops=1)
> Index Cond: (subscription = 89)
>
>so the stats row is suggesting there are only 4479 rows with
>subscription = 89 when really there are 65508. (The preceding
>discussion hopefully makes it clear why this is a potentially critical
>mistake.)
>
This could potentially make sense on the larger server (if my
understanding of the vacuum process is correct). The regular
maintenance of the large server (which is currently the only one being
updated regularily), does a vacuum analyze once per day, a scheduled
vacuum once / hour, and autovacuum for the remainder of the time (which
might be overkill). With the function of these tables, it is easily
possible for the maillog_received table to gain 60,000 rows for a single
subscription in 24 hours. With that information, maybe it might be in
my best interest to run the analyze hourly?
> This suggests that you may need to raise your statistics
>targets.
>
>
>
I've raised the statistics targets to 300 on these columns, it seems to
have helped some. Interesting enough, when I query on the
most_common_vals for the subscription argument, they tend to use the
reverse scan method vs the sort.
Thanks again,
Derek
Attachments:pg_stats_large.txt (text/plain, 5.7K) download
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