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From: Eugene E. <sad@bankir.ru>
To: Stephan Szabo <sszabo@megazone.bigpanda.com>
Cc: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Cc: Achilleus Mantzios <achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com>
Cc: pgsql-sql@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: have you feel anything when you read this ?
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:07:19 +0400
Message-ID: <4434A207.6010600@bankir.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060405071322.Y58168@megazone.bigpanda.com>
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Stephan Szabo wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Apr 2006, Eugene E. wrote:
> 
> 
>>Stephan Szabo wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 4 Apr 2006, Eugene E. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Stephan Szabo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Eugene E. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Peter Eisentraut wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Eugene E. wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the problem is: you'll get this four byte sequence '\000' _instead_
>>>>>>>>of NUL-byte anyway.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>What you seem to be missing is that PostgreSQL data can be represented
>>>>>>>in textual and in binary form.  What you in psql is the textual form.
>>>>>>>If you want the binary form you need to select it.  Then you can pass
>>>>>>>the exact bytes back and forth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>your sentence is not true.
>>>>>>I can not select exact bytes even if i use BYTEA type
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>No, that is still using the textual form.  If you use PQexecParams and set
>>>>>the last argument to show you want binary data, you should get binary
>>>>>data.
>>
>>ok
>>then i am using PQexecParams
>>
>>the following tiny program shows a wonderful lameness...
> 
> 
> What lameness? The fact that you're trying to use a binary (network order
> maybe) integer as a string? That's not the fault of PQexecParams but
> of the code calling it.

You're right !
That's is not a fault of PQexecParams at all. That's the fault of its 
design. (I pretty know why an integer has been not displayed, but why 
they designed this function that way ? i do not know)

> It'd be nice for ease of use to be able to say, give me this
> column (the integer) as a string and this column (the bytea) as binary,

I always want to retrieve TEXT (and mostly INT) in TEXTUAL-FORM, and 
BYTEA always in BINARY-FORM. (at least by defaul)

WHY SHOULD I RETRIVE A SINGLE BYTEA FIELD IN A SEPARATE QUERY ???

Look: if i define a field as of type BYTEA, doesn't it mean the field 
tends to store binary data ? If does, then WHY they (by default) convert 
its value to TEXTUAL-FORM which is not needed by default -- i already 
inform the server: "i want some BINARY to in and out" when i have 
choosed the type BYTEA



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